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Could you resend that email please? Thanks, Me

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>Could you resend that email please?

Karen posted: > LOL!  Let the "poetry" begin!

Karen, For someone who belongs or belonged to alt.bitterness, you LOL a lot. Your hate for certain people reveals itself constantly~ like in your post to me below, after the loathing  post make by Cruising Queen. You never miss a chance to berate George, Sunny, Becca, RoboCop, Brenda and often me. You find joy in hurting people and that in itself is very sad. –Jean >Received my documents and air tickets last night for our South America >Cruise on Nov. 1st!  Was surprised that they came nearly a month early! >Thanks, George~good job!  NOW, what to pack for 15 days with the airline >restrictions and no Laundromat onboard! The weather will be springtime like >there too, I guess!

Queen of Cruising responded: >Translation: >"Every one look at O’Boil and pay attention to me.  If I, O’Boil, make >you feel bad since you are not cruising, who the hell cares?  I’m as >happy as a pigeon shitting in St. Peter’s Basilica."

Karen’s response to this hateful post : – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->LOL !! >Karen

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>Karen, >For someone who belongs or belonged to alt.bitterness, you LOL a lot. Your >hate for certain people reveals itself constantly~ like in your post to me >below, after the loathing  post make by Cruising Queen. You never miss a >chance to berate George, Sunny, Becca, RoboCop, Brenda and often me. You >find joy in hurting people and that in itself is very sad.

In your deluded mind, I am sure you think that YOUR post was Of so fucking informative and in NO WAY hurtful to Karen. You’re a hypocrite of the first order and the highest breed.

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Karen is doing one heck of a job, I have not seen a BoBoFlop post in a long time. Now if the old drunk would go away. (two guesses and the first one does not count) BTW maybe you should go away also for bringing up this BS and holding a grudge.  Fred<—–thinks George and Becca are OK TTFN

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Could you resend that email please? > Karen posted: > LOL!  Let the "poetry" begin! > Karen, > For someone who belongs or belonged to alt.bitterness, you LOL a lot. Your > hate for certain people reveals itself constantly~ like in your post to me > below, after the loathing  post make by Cruising Queen. You never miss a > chance to berate George, Sunny, Becca, RoboCop, Brenda and often me. You > find joy in hurting people and that in itself is very sad. > –Jean >Received my documents and air tickets last night for our South America >Cruise on Nov. 1st!  Was surprised that they came nearly a month early! >Thanks, George~good job!  NOW, what to pack for 15 days with the airline >restrictions and no Laundromat onboard! The weather will be springtime like >there too, I guess! > Queen of Cruising responded: >Translation: >"Every one look at O’Boil and pay attention to me.  If I, O’Boil, make >you feel bad since you are not cruising, who the hell cares?  I’m as >happy as a pigeon shitting in St. Peter’s Basilica." > Karen’s response to this hateful post : >LOL !! >Karen

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Could you resend that email please? Thanks, Me

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>Could you resend that email please?

Karen posted: > LOL!  Let the "poetry" begin!

Karen, For someone who belongs or belonged to alt.bitterness, you LOL a lot. Your hate for certain people reveals itself constantly~ like in your post to me below, after the loathing  post make by Cruising Queen. You never miss a chance to berate George, Sunny, Becca, RoboCop, Brenda and often me. You find joy in hurting people and that in itself is very sad. –Jean >Received my documents and air tickets last night for our South America >Cruise on Nov. 1st!  Was surprised that they came nearly a month early! >Thanks, George~good job!  NOW, what to pack for 15 days with the airline >restrictions and no Laundromat onboard! The weather will be springtime like >there too, I guess!

Queen of Cruising responded: >Translation: >"Every one look at O’Boil and pay attention to me.  If I, O’Boil, make >you feel bad since you are not cruising, who the hell cares?  I’m as >happy as a pigeon shitting in St. Peter’s Basilica."

Karen’s response to this hateful post : – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->LOL !! >Karen

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>Karen, >For someone who belongs or belonged to alt.bitterness, you LOL a lot. Your >hate for certain people reveals itself constantly~ like in your post to me >below, after the loathing  post make by Cruising Queen. You never miss a >chance to berate George, Sunny, Becca, RoboCop, Brenda and often me. You >find joy in hurting people and that in itself is very sad.

In your deluded mind, I am sure you think that YOUR post was Of so fucking informative and in NO WAY hurtful to Karen. You’re a hypocrite of the first order and the highest breed.

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Karen is doing one heck of a job, I have not seen a BoBoFlop post in a long time. Now if the old drunk would go away. (two guesses and the first one does not count) BTW maybe you should go away also for bringing up this BS and holding a grudge.  Fred<—–thinks George and Becca are OK TTFN

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Could you resend that email please? > Karen posted: > LOL!  Let the "poetry" begin! > Karen, > For someone who belongs or belonged to alt.bitterness, you LOL a lot. Your > hate for certain people reveals itself constantly~ like in your post to me > below, after the loathing  post make by Cruising Queen. You never miss a > chance to berate George, Sunny, Becca, RoboCop, Brenda and often me. You > find joy in hurting people and that in itself is very sad. > –Jean >Received my documents and air tickets last night for our South America >Cruise on Nov. 1st!  Was surprised that they came nearly a month early! >Thanks, George~good job!  NOW, what to pack for 15 days with the airline >restrictions and no Laundromat onboard! The weather will be springtime like >there too, I guess! > Queen of Cruising responded: >Translation: >"Every one look at O’Boil and pay attention to me.  If I, O’Boil, make >you feel bad since you are not cruising, who the hell cares?  I’m as >happy as a pigeon shitting in St. Peter’s Basilica." > Karen’s response to this hateful post : >LOL !! >Karen

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Northern Poland, Gdansk, Stay? See? Do?

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Malbork, Bydgoszcz, Torun, Frombork and some national parks can be visited in this region. Rolf – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You can also make trips to Torun and Frombork, two towns related to the > great astronomer Copernicus. > I think Torun is more than 100 kilometers from Gdansk, but it is a beautiful > city and it’s worth a visit and a stay for a day or two. > Many thanks! > /Tommy P. > > > Thinking of taking the ferry Nynashamn-Gdansk in a few days. > > > Haven’t been to Northern Poland before, except for Leba. If the > > > weather is nice we will go there again (have our own car with us), > > > but what to do and see in the vicinity (100km) of Gdansk – and > > > where to stay (clean but cheap)? > > > Thanks in advance, > > > Tommy Petersson > > what to see in Gdansk: > > Along the Royal Route: the Upland Gate, the Torture-House, the Prison > Tower, > > the Golden Gate, St. George’s Court, Uphagen’s House, the Main Town > Hall, > > Arthur’s Court, Neptune Fountain, Dlugi Targ Street with its > characteristic > > tenements dating back to the 15th – 16th century, Green Gate > > Mariacka Street – the most remarkable street in Gdansk; its tenements > have > > characteristic threshold structures resembling decorated stone terraces. > > The Ghotic Basilica of the Blessed Virgin Mary built between 1343 – > 1502; > > the biggest in Poland and the world’s largest brick-built church. > > The Long Riverside (Dlugie Pobrzeze) with the old port on the Motlawa > River > > and the famous port Crane built in the 15th century. > > The Baroque Royal Chapel founded, among others, by King Jan III Sobieski > for > > the Poles from Gdansk. > > The Church of St. Nicolas constructed in the 14th and 15th centuries by > the > > Dominicans. > > The Renaissance Great Armoury /1602-06/. > > Gothic Towers and defensive walls including the Corner Tower (Narozna > > Tower). > > OLD TOWN > > Main Town Hall built between 1587 – 95; currently the headquarters of > the > > Baltic Cultural Centre (Nadbaltyckie Centrum Kultury). > > Great Mill from c. 1350 & Small Mill from the 15th century – built by > the > > Knights of the Teutonic Order. > > The Church of St Catherine – the very oldest church in Gdansk from the > first > > half of the 13th century. > > The Church of St Bridget from the 14th century; in front of the church – > > statue of John Paul II from 1984. > > Solidarnosci Square – Gdansk Shipyard Memorial (the monument to the > shipyard > > strike casualties) erected in 1980. > > The Gdansk PAN (Polish Academy of Science) Library – the collection was > > founded by a gift from Marquis dOrii in the 16th century. > > The Main Railway Station built between 1895 – 1900, restored and > modernised > > in 1996. > > Polish Post Office in Gdansk by the Defenders of the Polish Post Office > > Square made famous by the defensive action in September 1939; in front > of > > the building there is a commemorative tablet dedicated to the defenders > and > > a monument unveiled in 1979. > > National Museum on Torunska Street housed in the former Franciscan > > monastery, later Academic Gymnasium (1558 – 1817); since 1872 – the > > municipal museum, where you can find sculptures, gothic paintings, > Gdansk > > paintings from the 14th – 17th century and Gdansk craftsmanship. > > Granary Island and Lead Island (Olowianka Island) – here, since the 14th > > century, Gdansk merchants used to store and reload their goods. > > The Vistula Estuary Fortress (Wisloujscie Fortress) – a lighthouse built > in > > 1482. > > Westerplatte – polish military depot, whose personnel was attacked on > 1st > > September 1939 and defended the base for 7 days; in the preserved > guardhouse > > no.1 there is a Memory Hall and Westerplatte Memorial from 1966. > > Victory Avenue (Zwyciestwa Avenue) leading from Gdansk to Wrzeszcz – an > > avenue with four rows of linden-trees planted in the 18th century on the > > initiative of the then Mayor – D. Gralath. > > GDANSK OLIWA > > Oliwa Cathedral from the 13th century with its impressive interiors > dating > > back to the 16th – 18th century and the truly unique 18th-century organ. > > Abbots’ Palace – currently housing the Contemporary Arts Department of > the > > National Museum. > > Adam Mickiewicz Park created in the 18th century; contains, among other > > things, a palm house and an alpinarium. > > Zoological gardens. > > Polanki Street containing five impressive Gdansk patricians’ > mansion-houses > > from the 18th – 19th century. > > besides Gdansk you can visit: > > Slowinski Park Narodowy – National Park with the biggest moving sand > dunes > > in Europe (!!!) – close to Leba > > Malbork – beautiful castle, > > Jastrzebia Gora – resort with lighthouses and the Rozewie Cape – the > most > > northern place in Poland > > Ustka – nice resort > > Wladyslawowo – nice city at the sea. > > regards > > Mateusz Torbus (Poland)

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Many thanks! /Tommy P. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thinking of taking the ferry Nynashamn-Gdansk in a few days. > Haven’t been to Northern Poland before, except for Leba. If the > weather is nice we will go there again (have our own car with us), > but what to do and see in the vicinity (100km) of Gdansk – and > where to stay (clean but cheap)? > Thanks in advance, > Tommy Petersson > what to see in Gdansk: > Along the Royal Route: the Upland Gate, the Torture-House, the Prison Tower, > the Golden Gate, St. George’s Court, Uphagen’s House, the Main Town Hall, > Arthur’s Court, Neptune Fountain, Dlugi Targ Street with its characteristic > tenements dating back to the 15th – 16th century, Green Gate > Mariacka Street – the most remarkable street in Gdansk; its tenements have > characteristic threshold structures resembling decorated stone terraces. > The Ghotic Basilica of the Blessed Virgin Mary built between 1343 – 1502; > the biggest in Poland and the world’s largest brick-built church. > The Long Riverside (Dlugie Pobrzeze) with the old port on the Motlawa River > and the famous port Crane built in the 15th century. > The Baroque Royal Chapel founded, among others, by King Jan III Sobieski for > the Poles from Gdansk. > The Church of St. Nicolas constructed in the 14th and 15th centuries by the > Dominicans. > The Renaissance Great Armoury /1602-06/. > Gothic Towers and defensive walls including the Corner Tower (Narozna > Tower). > OLD TOWN > Main Town Hall built between 1587 – 95; currently the headquarters of the > Baltic Cultural Centre (Nadbaltyckie Centrum Kultury). > Great Mill from c. 1350 & Small Mill from the 15th century – built by the > Knights of the Teutonic Order. > The Church of St Catherine – the very oldest church in Gdansk from the first > half of the 13th century. > The Church of St Bridget from the 14th century; in front of the church – > statue of John Paul II from 1984. > Solidarnosci Square – Gdansk Shipyard Memorial (the monument to the shipyard > strike casualties) erected in 1980. > The Gdansk PAN (Polish Academy of Science) Library – the collection was > founded by a gift from Marquis dOrii in the 16th century. > The Main Railway Station built between 1895 – 1900, restored and modernised > in 1996. > Polish Post Office in Gdansk by the Defenders of the Polish Post Office > Square made famous by the defensive action in September 1939; in front of > the building there is a commemorative tablet dedicated to the defenders and > a monument unveiled in 1979. > National Museum on Torunska Street housed in the former Franciscan > monastery, later Academic Gymnasium (1558 – 1817); since 1872 – the > municipal museum, where you can find sculptures, gothic paintings, Gdansk > paintings from the 14th – 17th century and Gdansk craftsmanship. > Granary Island and Lead Island (Olowianka Island) – here, since the 14th > century, Gdansk merchants used to store and reload their goods. > The Vistula Estuary Fortress (Wisloujscie Fortress) – a lighthouse built in > 1482. > Westerplatte – polish military depot, whose personnel was attacked on 1st > September 1939 and defended the base for 7 days; in the preserved guardhouse > no.1 there is a Memory Hall and Westerplatte Memorial from 1966. > Victory Avenue (Zwyciestwa Avenue) leading from Gdansk to Wrzeszcz – an > avenue with four rows of linden-trees planted in the 18th century on the > initiative of the then Mayor – D. Gralath. > GDANSK OLIWA > Oliwa Cathedral from the 13th century with its impressive interiors dating > back to the 16th – 18th century and the truly unique 18th-century organ. > Abbots’ Palace – currently housing the Contemporary Arts Department of the > National Museum. > Adam Mickiewicz Park created in the 18th century; contains, among other > things, a palm house and an alpinarium. > Zoological gardens. > Polanki Street containing five impressive Gdansk patricians’ mansion-houses > from the 18th – 19th century. > besides Gdansk you can visit: > Slowinski Park Narodowy – National Park with the biggest moving sand dunes > in Europe (!!!) – close to Leba > Malbork – beautiful castle, > Jastrzebia Gora – resort with lighthouses and the Rozewie Cape – the most > northern place in Poland > Ustka – nice resort > Wladyslawowo – nice city at the sea. > regards > Mateusz Torbus (Poland)

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You can also make trips to Torun and Frombork, two towns related to the great astronomer Copernicus. I think Torun is more than 100 kilometers from Gdansk, but it is a beautiful city and it’s worth a visit and a stay for a day or two. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Many thanks! > /Tommy P. > > Thinking of taking the ferry Nynashamn-Gdansk in a few days. > > Haven’t been to Northern Poland before, except for Leba. If the > > weather is nice we will go there again (have our own car with us), > > but what to do and see in the vicinity (100km) of Gdansk – and > > where to stay (clean but cheap)? > > Thanks in advance, > > Tommy Petersson > what to see in Gdansk: > Along the Royal Route: the Upland Gate, the Torture-House, the Prison Tower, > the Golden Gate, St. George’s Court, Uphagen’s House, the Main Town Hall, > Arthur’s Court, Neptune Fountain, Dlugi Targ Street with its characteristic > tenements dating back to the 15th – 16th century, Green Gate > Mariacka Street – the most remarkable street in Gdansk; its tenements have > characteristic threshold structures resembling decorated stone terraces. > The Ghotic Basilica of the Blessed Virgin Mary built between 1343 – 1502; > the biggest in Poland and the world’s largest brick-built church. > The Long Riverside (Dlugie Pobrzeze) with the old port on the Motlawa River > and the famous port Crane built in the 15th century. > The Baroque Royal Chapel founded, among others, by King Jan III Sobieski for > the Poles from Gdansk. > The Church of St. Nicolas constructed in the 14th and 15th centuries by the > Dominicans. > The Renaissance Great Armoury /1602-06/. > Gothic Towers and defensive walls including the Corner Tower (Narozna > Tower). > OLD TOWN > Main Town Hall built between 1587 – 95; currently the headquarters of the > Baltic Cultural Centre (Nadbaltyckie Centrum Kultury). > Great Mill from c. 1350 & Small Mill from the 15th century – built by the > Knights of the Teutonic Order. > The Church of St Catherine – the very oldest church in Gdansk from the first > half of the 13th century. > The Church of St Bridget from the 14th century; in front of the church – > statue of John Paul II from 1984. > Solidarnosci Square – Gdansk Shipyard Memorial (the monument to the shipyard > strike casualties) erected in 1980. > The Gdansk PAN (Polish Academy of Science) Library – the collection was > founded by a gift from Marquis dOrii in the 16th century. > The Main Railway Station built between 1895 – 1900, restored and modernised > in 1996. > Polish Post Office in Gdansk by the Defenders of the Polish Post Office > Square made famous by the defensive action in September 1939; in front of > the building there is a commemorative tablet dedicated to the defenders and > a monument unveiled in 1979. > National Museum on Torunska Street housed in the former Franciscan > monastery, later Academic Gymnasium (1558 – 1817); since 1872 – the > municipal museum, where you can find sculptures, gothic paintings, Gdansk > paintings from the 14th – 17th century and Gdansk craftsmanship. > Granary Island and Lead Island (Olowianka Island) – here, since the 14th > century, Gdansk merchants used to store and reload their goods. > The Vistula Estuary Fortress (Wisloujscie Fortress) – a lighthouse built in > 1482. > Westerplatte – polish military depot, whose personnel was attacked on 1st > September 1939 and defended the base for 7 days; in the preserved guardhouse > no.1 there is a Memory Hall and Westerplatte Memorial from 1966. > Victory Avenue (Zwyciestwa Avenue) leading from Gdansk to Wrzeszcz – an > avenue with four rows of linden-trees planted in the 18th century on the > initiative of the then Mayor – D. Gralath. > GDANSK OLIWA > Oliwa Cathedral from the 13th century with its impressive interiors dating > back to the 16th – 18th century and the truly unique 18th-century organ. > Abbots’ Palace – currently housing the Contemporary Arts Department of the > National Museum. > Adam Mickiewicz Park created in the 18th century; contains, among other > things, a palm house and an alpinarium. > Zoological gardens. > Polanki Street containing five impressive Gdansk patricians’ mansion-houses > from the 18th – 19th century. > besides Gdansk you can visit: > Slowinski Park Narodowy – National Park with the biggest moving sand dunes > in Europe (!!!) – close to Leba > Malbork – beautiful castle, > Jastrzebia Gora – resort with lighthouses and the Rozewie Cape – the most > northern place in Poland > Ustka – nice resort > Wladyslawowo – nice city at the sea. > regards > Mateusz Torbus (Poland)

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> Thinking of taking the ferry Nynashamn-Gdansk in a few days. > Haven’t been to Northern Poland before, except for Leba. If the > weather is nice we will go there again (have our own car with us), > but what to do and see in the vicinity (100km) of Gdansk – and > where to stay (clean but cheap)? > Thanks in advance, > Tommy Petersson

what to see in Gdansk: Along the Royal Route: the Upland Gate, the Torture-House, the Prison Tower, the Golden Gate, St. George’s Court, Uphagen’s House, the Main Town Hall, Arthur’s Court, Neptune Fountain, Dlugi Targ Street with its characteristic tenements dating back to the 15th – 16th century, Green Gate Mariacka Street – the most remarkable street in Gdansk; its tenements have characteristic threshold structures resembling decorated stone terraces. The Ghotic Basilica of the Blessed Virgin Mary built between 1343 – 1502; the biggest in Poland and the world’s largest brick-built church. The Long Riverside (Dlugie Pobrzeze) with the old port on the Motlawa River and the famous port Crane built in the 15th century. The Baroque Royal Chapel founded, among others, by King Jan III Sobieski for the Poles from Gdansk. The Church of St. Nicolas constructed in the 14th and 15th centuries by the Dominicans. The Renaissance Great Armoury /1602-06/. Gothic Towers and defensive walls including the Corner Tower (Narozna Tower). OLD TOWN Main Town Hall built between 1587 – 95; currently the headquarters of the Baltic Cultural Centre (Nadbaltyckie Centrum Kultury). Great Mill from c. 1350 & Small Mill from the 15th century – built by the Knights of the Teutonic Order. The Church of St Catherine – the very oldest church in Gdansk from the first half of the 13th century. The Church of St Bridget from the 14th century; in front of the church – statue of John Paul II from 1984. Solidarnosci Square – Gdansk Shipyard Memorial (the monument to the shipyard strike casualties) erected in 1980. The Gdansk PAN (Polish Academy of Science) Library – the collection was founded by a gift from Marquis dOrii in the 16th century. The Main Railway Station built between 1895 – 1900, restored and modernised in 1996. Polish Post Office in Gdansk by the Defenders of the Polish Post Office Square made famous by the defensive action in September 1939; in front of the building there is a commemorative tablet dedicated to the defenders and a monument unveiled in 1979. National Museum on Torunska Street housed in the former Franciscan monastery, later Academic Gymnasium (1558 – 1817); since 1872 – the municipal museum, where you can find sculptures, gothic paintings, Gdansk paintings from the 14th – 17th century and Gdansk craftsmanship. Granary Island and Lead Island (Olowianka Island) – here, since the 14th century, Gdansk merchants used to store and reload their goods. The Vistula Estuary Fortress (Wisloujscie Fortress) – a lighthouse built in 1482. Westerplatte – polish military depot, whose personnel was attacked on 1st September 1939 and defended the base for 7 days; in the preserved guardhouse no.1 there is a Memory Hall and Westerplatte Memorial from 1966. Victory Avenue (Zwyciestwa Avenue) leading from Gdansk to Wrzeszcz – an avenue with four rows of linden-trees planted in the 18th century on the initiative of the then Mayor – D. Gralath. GDANSK OLIWA Oliwa Cathedral from the 13th century with its impressive interiors dating back to the 16th – 18th century and the truly unique 18th-century organ. Abbots’ Palace – currently housing the Contemporary Arts Department of the National Museum. Adam Mickiewicz Park created in the 18th century; contains, among other things, a palm house and an alpinarium. Zoological gardens. Polanki Street containing five impressive Gdansk patricians’ mansion-houses from the 18th – 19th century. besides Gdansk you can visit: Slowinski Park Narodowy – National Park with the biggest moving sand dunes in Europe (!!!) – close to Leba Malbork – beautiful castle, Jastrzebia Gora – resort with lighthouses and the Rozewie Cape – the most northern place in Poland Ustka – nice resort Wladyslawowo – nice city at the sea. regards Mateusz Torbus (Poland)

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>Thinking of taking the ferry Nynashamn-Gdansk in a few days. >Haven’t been to Northern Poland before, except for Leba. If the >weather is nice we will go there again (have our own car with us), >but what to do and see in the vicinity (100km) of Gdansk – and >where to stay (clean but cheap)? >Thanks in advance, >Tommy Petersson

You may want to hold off for few weeks. Parts of Gdansk just experienced a major flood and some areas are currently being renovated. But if you just want to visit Old Town and beaches you will be fine, if you want to travel around there could be some problems as some local roads are still inaccessible. You can stay in Sopot, Gdynia, Hel etc.  Gdansk is very old and beautiful. Most tourist do sightseeing there. Sopot is a resort town where people come to relax and party. Neighboring Gdynia is a business center with lots of economic activity. Hel is a thin peninsula with many pubs, clubs, discos etc. There are plenty of hotels, motels etc all around and you shouldnt have a problem finding a reasonable accomodation. Enjoy your stay in Poland. WaRR

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Thinking of taking the ferry Nynashamn-Gdansk in a few days. Haven’t been to Northern Poland before, except for Leba. If the weather is nice we will go there again (have our own car with us), but what to do and see in the vicinity (100km) of Gdansk – and where to stay (clean but cheap)? Thanks in advance, Tommy Petersson

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Thinking of taking the ferry Nynashamn-Gdansk in a few days. Haven’t been to Northern Poland before, except for Leba. If the weather is nice we will go there again (have our own car with us), but what to do and see in the vicinity (100km) of Gdansk – and where to stay (clean but cheap)? Thanks in advance, Tommy Petersson

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>Thinking of taking the ferry Nynashamn-Gdansk in a few days. >Haven’t been to Northern Poland before, except for Leba. If the >weather is nice we will go there again (have our own car with us), >but what to do and see in the vicinity (100km) of Gdansk – and >where to stay (clean but cheap)? >Thanks in advance, >Tommy Petersson

You may want to hold off for few weeks. Parts of Gdansk just experienced a major flood and some areas are currently being renovated. But if you just want to visit Old Town and beaches you will be fine, if you want to travel around there could be some problems as some local roads are still inaccessible. You can stay in Sopot, Gdynia, Hel etc.  Gdansk is very old and beautiful. Most tourist do sightseeing there. Sopot is a resort town where people come to relax and party. Neighboring Gdynia is a business center with lots of economic activity. Hel is a thin peninsula with many pubs, clubs, discos etc. There are plenty of hotels, motels etc all around and you shouldnt have a problem finding a reasonable accomodation. Enjoy your stay in Poland. WaRR

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> Thinking of taking the ferry Nynashamn-Gdansk in a few days. > Haven’t been to Northern Poland before, except for Leba. If the > weather is nice we will go there again (have our own car with us), > but what to do and see in the vicinity (100km) of Gdansk – and > where to stay (clean but cheap)? > Thanks in advance, > Tommy Petersson

what to see in Gdansk: Along the Royal Route: the Upland Gate, the Torture-House, the Prison Tower, the Golden Gate, St. George’s Court, Uphagen’s House, the Main Town Hall, Arthur’s Court, Neptune Fountain, Dlugi Targ Street with its characteristic tenements dating back to the 15th – 16th century, Green Gate Mariacka Street – the most remarkable street in Gdansk; its tenements have characteristic threshold structures resembling decorated stone terraces. The Ghotic Basilica of the Blessed Virgin Mary built between 1343 – 1502; the biggest in Poland and the world’s largest brick-built church. The Long Riverside (Dlugie Pobrzeze) with the old port on the Motlawa River and the famous port Crane built in the 15th century. The Baroque Royal Chapel founded, among others, by King Jan III Sobieski for the Poles from Gdansk. The Church of St. Nicolas constructed in the 14th and 15th centuries by the Dominicans. The Renaissance Great Armoury /1602-06/. Gothic Towers and defensive walls including the Corner Tower (Narozna Tower). OLD TOWN Main Town Hall built between 1587 – 95; currently the headquarters of the Baltic Cultural Centre (Nadbaltyckie Centrum Kultury). Great Mill from c. 1350 & Small Mill from the 15th century – built by the Knights of the Teutonic Order. The Church of St Catherine – the very oldest church in Gdansk from the first half of the 13th century. The Church of St Bridget from the 14th century; in front of the church – statue of John Paul II from 1984. Solidarnosci Square – Gdansk Shipyard Memorial (the monument to the shipyard strike casualties) erected in 1980. The Gdansk PAN (Polish Academy of Science) Library – the collection was founded by a gift from Marquis dOrii in the 16th century. The Main Railway Station built between 1895 – 1900, restored and modernised in 1996. Polish Post Office in Gdansk by the Defenders of the Polish Post Office Square made famous by the defensive action in September 1939; in front of the building there is a commemorative tablet dedicated to the defenders and a monument unveiled in 1979. National Museum on Torunska Street housed in the former Franciscan monastery, later Academic Gymnasium (1558 – 1817); since 1872 – the municipal museum, where you can find sculptures, gothic paintings, Gdansk paintings from the 14th – 17th century and Gdansk craftsmanship. Granary Island and Lead Island (Olowianka Island) – here, since the 14th century, Gdansk merchants used to store and reload their goods. The Vistula Estuary Fortress (Wisloujscie Fortress) – a lighthouse built in 1482. Westerplatte – polish military depot, whose personnel was attacked on 1st September 1939 and defended the base for 7 days; in the preserved guardhouse no.1 there is a Memory Hall and Westerplatte Memorial from 1966. Victory Avenue (Zwyciestwa Avenue) leading from Gdansk to Wrzeszcz – an avenue with four rows of linden-trees planted in the 18th century on the initiative of the then Mayor – D. Gralath. GDANSK OLIWA Oliwa Cathedral from the 13th century with its impressive interiors dating back to the 16th – 18th century and the truly unique 18th-century organ. Abbots’ Palace – currently housing the Contemporary Arts Department of the National Museum. Adam Mickiewicz Park created in the 18th century; contains, among other things, a palm house and an alpinarium. Zoological gardens. Polanki Street containing five impressive Gdansk patricians’ mansion-houses from the 18th – 19th century. besides Gdansk you can visit: Slowinski Park Narodowy – National Park with the biggest moving sand dunes in Europe (!!!) – close to Leba Malbork – beautiful castle, Jastrzebia Gora – resort with lighthouses and the Rozewie Cape – the most northern place in Poland Ustka – nice resort Wladyslawowo – nice city at the sea. regards Mateusz Torbus (Poland)

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Many thanks! /Tommy P. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thinking of taking the ferry Nynashamn-Gdansk in a few days. > Haven’t been to Northern Poland before, except for Leba. If the > weather is nice we will go there again (have our own car with us), > but what to do and see in the vicinity (100km) of Gdansk – and > where to stay (clean but cheap)? > Thanks in advance, > Tommy Petersson > what to see in Gdansk: > Along the Royal Route: the Upland Gate, the Torture-House, the Prison Tower, > the Golden Gate, St. George’s Court, Uphagen’s House, the Main Town Hall, > Arthur’s Court, Neptune Fountain, Dlugi Targ Street with its characteristic > tenements dating back to the 15th – 16th century, Green Gate > Mariacka Street – the most remarkable street in Gdansk; its tenements have > characteristic threshold structures resembling decorated stone terraces. > The Ghotic Basilica of the Blessed Virgin Mary built between 1343 – 1502; > the biggest in Poland and the world’s largest brick-built church. > The Long Riverside (Dlugie Pobrzeze) with the old port on the Motlawa River > and the famous port Crane built in the 15th century. > The Baroque Royal Chapel founded, among others, by King Jan III Sobieski for > the Poles from Gdansk. > The Church of St. Nicolas constructed in the 14th and 15th centuries by the > Dominicans. > The Renaissance Great Armoury /1602-06/. > Gothic Towers and defensive walls including the Corner Tower (Narozna > Tower). > OLD TOWN > Main Town Hall built between 1587 – 95; currently the headquarters of the > Baltic Cultural Centre (Nadbaltyckie Centrum Kultury). > Great Mill from c. 1350 & Small Mill from the 15th century – built by the > Knights of the Teutonic Order. > The Church of St Catherine – the very oldest church in Gdansk from the first > half of the 13th century. > The Church of St Bridget from the 14th century; in front of the church – > statue of John Paul II from 1984. > Solidarnosci Square – Gdansk Shipyard Memorial (the monument to the shipyard > strike casualties) erected in 1980. > The Gdansk PAN (Polish Academy of Science) Library – the collection was > founded by a gift from Marquis dOrii in the 16th century. > The Main Railway Station built between 1895 – 1900, restored and modernised > in 1996. > Polish Post Office in Gdansk by the Defenders of the Polish Post Office > Square made famous by the defensive action in September 1939; in front of > the building there is a commemorative tablet dedicated to the defenders and > a monument unveiled in 1979. > National Museum on Torunska Street housed in the former Franciscan > monastery, later Academic Gymnasium (1558 – 1817); since 1872 – the > municipal museum, where you can find sculptures, gothic paintings, Gdansk > paintings from the 14th – 17th century and Gdansk craftsmanship. > Granary Island and Lead Island (Olowianka Island) – here, since the 14th > century, Gdansk merchants used to store and reload their goods. > The Vistula Estuary Fortress (Wisloujscie Fortress) – a lighthouse built in > 1482. > Westerplatte – polish military depot, whose personnel was attacked on 1st > September 1939 and defended the base for 7 days; in the preserved guardhouse > no.1 there is a Memory Hall and Westerplatte Memorial from 1966. > Victory Avenue (Zwyciestwa Avenue) leading from Gdansk to Wrzeszcz – an > avenue with four rows of linden-trees planted in the 18th century on the > initiative of the then Mayor – D. Gralath. > GDANSK OLIWA > Oliwa Cathedral from the 13th century with its impressive interiors dating > back to the 16th – 18th century and the truly unique 18th-century organ. > Abbots’ Palace – currently housing the Contemporary Arts Department of the > National Museum. > Adam Mickiewicz Park created in the 18th century; contains, among other > things, a palm house and an alpinarium. > Zoological gardens. > Polanki Street containing five impressive Gdansk patricians’ mansion-houses > from the 18th – 19th century. > besides Gdansk you can visit: > Slowinski Park Narodowy – National Park with the biggest moving sand dunes > in Europe (!!!) – close to Leba > Malbork – beautiful castle, > Jastrzebia Gora – resort with lighthouses and the Rozewie Cape – the most > northern place in Poland > Ustka – nice resort > Wladyslawowo – nice city at the sea. > regards > Mateusz Torbus (Poland)

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You can also make trips to Torun and Frombork, two towns related to the great astronomer Copernicus. I think Torun is more than 100 kilometers from Gdansk, but it is a beautiful city and it’s worth a visit and a stay for a day or two. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Many thanks! > /Tommy P. > > Thinking of taking the ferry Nynashamn-Gdansk in a few days. > > Haven’t been to Northern Poland before, except for Leba. If the > > weather is nice we will go there again (have our own car with us), > > but what to do and see in the vicinity (100km) of Gdansk – and > > where to stay (clean but cheap)? > > Thanks in advance, > > Tommy Petersson > what to see in Gdansk: > Along the Royal Route: the Upland Gate, the Torture-House, the Prison Tower, > the Golden Gate, St. George’s Court, Uphagen’s House, the Main Town Hall, > Arthur’s Court, Neptune Fountain, Dlugi Targ Street with its characteristic > tenements dating back to the 15th – 16th century, Green Gate > Mariacka Street – the most remarkable street in Gdansk; its tenements have > characteristic threshold structures resembling decorated stone terraces. > The Ghotic Basilica of the Blessed Virgin Mary built between 1343 – 1502; > the biggest in Poland and the world’s largest brick-built church. > The Long Riverside (Dlugie Pobrzeze) with the old port on the Motlawa River > and the famous port Crane built in the 15th century. > The Baroque Royal Chapel founded, among others, by King Jan III Sobieski for > the Poles from Gdansk. > The Church of St. Nicolas constructed in the 14th and 15th centuries by the > Dominicans. > The Renaissance Great Armoury /1602-06/. > Gothic Towers and defensive walls including the Corner Tower (Narozna > Tower). > OLD TOWN > Main Town Hall built between 1587 – 95; currently the headquarters of the > Baltic Cultural Centre (Nadbaltyckie Centrum Kultury). > Great Mill from c. 1350 & Small Mill from the 15th century – built by the > Knights of the Teutonic Order. > The Church of St Catherine – the very oldest church in Gdansk from the first > half of the 13th century. > The Church of St Bridget from the 14th century; in front of the church – > statue of John Paul II from 1984. > Solidarnosci Square – Gdansk Shipyard Memorial (the monument to the shipyard > strike casualties) erected in 1980. > The Gdansk PAN (Polish Academy of Science) Library – the collection was > founded by a gift from Marquis dOrii in the 16th century. > The Main Railway Station built between 1895 – 1900, restored and modernised > in 1996. > Polish Post Office in Gdansk by the Defenders of the Polish Post Office > Square made famous by the defensive action in September 1939; in front of > the building there is a commemorative tablet dedicated to the defenders and > a monument unveiled in 1979. > National Museum on Torunska Street housed in the former Franciscan > monastery, later Academic Gymnasium (1558 – 1817); since 1872 – the > municipal museum, where you can find sculptures, gothic paintings, Gdansk > paintings from the 14th – 17th century and Gdansk craftsmanship. > Granary Island and Lead Island (Olowianka Island) – here, since the 14th > century, Gdansk merchants used to store and reload their goods. > The Vistula Estuary Fortress (Wisloujscie Fortress) – a lighthouse built in > 1482. > Westerplatte – polish military depot, whose personnel was attacked on 1st > September 1939 and defended the base for 7 days; in the preserved guardhouse > no.1 there is a Memory Hall and Westerplatte Memorial from 1966. > Victory Avenue (Zwyciestwa Avenue) leading from Gdansk to Wrzeszcz – an > avenue with four rows of linden-trees planted in the 18th century on the > initiative of the then Mayor – D. Gralath. > GDANSK OLIWA > Oliwa Cathedral from the 13th century with its impressive interiors dating > back to the 16th – 18th century and the truly unique 18th-century organ. > Abbots’ Palace – currently housing the Contemporary Arts Department of the > National Museum. > Adam Mickiewicz Park created in the 18th century; contains, among other > things, a palm house and an alpinarium. > Zoological gardens. > Polanki Street containing five impressive Gdansk patricians’ mansion-houses > from the 18th – 19th century. > besides Gdansk you can visit: > Slowinski Park Narodowy – National Park with the biggest moving sand dunes > in Europe (!!!) – close to Leba > Malbork – beautiful castle, > Jastrzebia Gora – resort with lighthouses and the Rozewie Cape – the most > northern place in Poland > Ustka – nice resort > Wladyslawowo – nice city at the sea. > regards > Mateusz Torbus (Poland)

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Malbork, Bydgoszcz, Torun, Frombork and some national parks can be visited in this region. Rolf – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You can also make trips to Torun and Frombork, two towns related to the > great astronomer Copernicus. > I think Torun is more than 100 kilometers from Gdansk, but it is a beautiful > city and it’s worth a visit and a stay for a day or two. > Many thanks! > /Tommy P. > > > Thinking of taking the ferry Nynashamn-Gdansk in a few days. > > > Haven’t been to Northern Poland before, except for Leba. If the > > > weather is nice we will go there again (have our own car with us), > > > but what to do and see in the vicinity (100km) of Gdansk – and > > > where to stay (clean but cheap)? > > > Thanks in advance, > > > Tommy Petersson > > what to see in Gdansk: > > Along the Royal Route: the Upland Gate, the Torture-House, the Prison > Tower, > > the Golden Gate, St. George’s Court, Uphagen’s House, the Main Town > Hall, > > Arthur’s Court, Neptune Fountain, Dlugi Targ Street with its > characteristic > > tenements dating back to the 15th – 16th century, Green Gate > > Mariacka Street – the most remarkable street in Gdansk; its tenements > have > > characteristic threshold structures resembling decorated stone terraces. > > The Ghotic Basilica of the Blessed Virgin Mary built between 1343 – > 1502; > > the biggest in Poland and the world’s largest brick-built church. > > The Long Riverside (Dlugie Pobrzeze) with the old port on the Motlawa > River > > and the famous port Crane built in the 15th century. > > The Baroque Royal Chapel founded, among others, by King Jan III Sobieski > for > > the Poles from Gdansk. > > The Church of St. Nicolas constructed in the 14th and 15th centuries by > the > > Dominicans. > > The Renaissance Great Armoury /1602-06/. > > Gothic Towers and defensive walls including the Corner Tower (Narozna > > Tower). > > OLD TOWN > > Main Town Hall built between 1587 – 95; currently the headquarters of > the > > Baltic Cultural Centre (Nadbaltyckie Centrum Kultury). > > Great Mill from c. 1350 & Small Mill from the 15th century – built by > the > > Knights of the Teutonic Order. > > The Church of St Catherine – the very oldest church in Gdansk from the > first > > half of the 13th century. > > The Church of St Bridget from the 14th century; in front of the church – > > statue of John Paul II from 1984. > > Solidarnosci Square – Gdansk Shipyard Memorial (the monument to the > shipyard > > strike casualties) erected in 1980. > > The Gdansk PAN (Polish Academy of Science) Library – the collection was > > founded by a gift from Marquis dOrii in the 16th century. > > The Main Railway Station built between 1895 – 1900, restored and > modernised > > in 1996. > > Polish Post Office in Gdansk by the Defenders of the Polish Post Office > > Square made famous by the defensive action in September 1939; in front > of > > the building there is a commemorative tablet dedicated to the defenders > and > > a monument unveiled in 1979. > > National Museum on Torunska Street housed in the former Franciscan > > monastery, later Academic Gymnasium (1558 – 1817); since 1872 – the > > municipal museum, where you can find sculptures, gothic paintings, > Gdansk > > paintings from the 14th – 17th century and Gdansk craftsmanship. > > Granary Island and Lead Island (Olowianka Island) – here, since the 14th > > century, Gdansk merchants used to store and reload their goods. > > The Vistula Estuary Fortress (Wisloujscie Fortress) – a lighthouse built > in > > 1482. > > Westerplatte – polish military depot, whose personnel was attacked on > 1st > > September 1939 and defended the base for 7 days; in the preserved > guardhouse > > no.1 there is a Memory Hall and Westerplatte Memorial from 1966. > > Victory Avenue (Zwyciestwa Avenue) leading from Gdansk to Wrzeszcz – an > > avenue with four rows of linden-trees planted in the 18th century on the > > initiative of the then Mayor – D. Gralath. > > GDANSK OLIWA > > Oliwa Cathedral from the 13th century with its impressive interiors > dating > > back to the 16th – 18th century and the truly unique 18th-century organ. > > Abbots’ Palace – currently housing the Contemporary Arts Department of > the > > National Museum. > > Adam Mickiewicz Park created in the 18th century; contains, among other > > things, a palm house and an alpinarium. > > Zoological gardens. > > Polanki Street containing five impressive Gdansk patricians’ > mansion-houses > > from the 18th – 19th century. > > besides Gdansk you can visit: > > Slowinski Park Narodowy – National Park with the biggest moving sand > dunes > > in Europe (!!!) – close to Leba > > Malbork – beautiful castle, > > Jastrzebia Gora – resort with lighthouses and the Rozewie Cape – the > most > > northern place in Poland > > Ustka – nice resort > > Wladyslawowo – nice city at the sea. > > regards > > Mateusz Torbus (Poland)

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Catholic outdoor wedding?

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I’ve been getting mixed comments on the possibility of an Catholic garden wedding. An American priest I’ve spoken to said it is not allowed, while many fellow Filipinos say it’s possible, if you get a priest from the Philippines. In the Philippines, where Catholicism is practically the state religion, people get married in gardens all the time.  Can someone please explain the American Catholic Church’s objections to an outdoor wedding? Because personally, I don’t see how even St. Peter’s Basilica can compete with a canopy of trees, blue skies and a carpet of grass in terms of showcasing God’s majesty.  In case it’s important, my fiance and I grew up Catholic, and still go to Church, though not regularly. Thanks, Stephanie

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>Can someone please explain the American Catholic Church’s >objections to an outdoor wedding?

Here are some sites which may help explain the church’s position on indoor weddings: http://winnie.fit.edu/~dbailey/CCM/faqmarr.html http://saintj.org/questions/faq.html#marriage http://www.americancatholic.org/Newsletters/CU/ac0596.asp Hope this helps, Noe

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Thanks, Noe. I guess I’ll have to rethink having my dog as the ringbearer :) Seriously, though, since I am not from this parish or this country and most of the family may be coming from back East and overseas, I’ll look into whether I could get permission. No harm trying. Thanks again. Stephanie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Here are some sites which may help explain the church’s position on > indoor weddings: > http://winnie.fit.edu/~dbailey/CCM/faqmarr.html > http://saintj.org/questions/faq.html#marriage > http://www.americancatholic.org/Newsletters/CU/ac0596.asp > Hope this helps, > Noe

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Stephanie, You might want to ask around for referrals for Catholic priests that will do outdoor ceremonies, including baptisms and weddings. I know of one or two in the Monterey Bay area (California) that I heard of through word of mouth. It might be possible to find a priest who will perform a marriage ceremony outdoors. Good luck, Jacqueline – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I’ve been getting mixed comments on the possibility of an Catholic >garden wedding. An American priest I’ve spoken to said it is not >allowed, while many fellow Filipinos say it’s possible, if you get a >priest from the Philippines. In the Philippines, where Catholicism is >practically the state religion, people get married in gardens all the >time.  Can someone please explain the American Catholic Church’s >objections to an outdoor wedding? Because personally, I don’t see how >even St. Peter’s Basilica can compete with a canopy of trees, blue >skies and a carpet of grass in terms of showcasing God’s majesty.  In >case it’s important, my fiance and I grew up Catholic, and still go to >Church, though not regularly. >Thanks, >Stephanie

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www.whiterobedmonks.org They will do outdoor weddings.  We had an our wedding outside at a winery (in front of the statue of St. Francis of Assisi) and arranged to have one of their priests perform the ceremony. Jan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Stephanie, > You might want to ask around for referrals for Catholic priests that > will do outdoor ceremonies, including baptisms and weddings. I know of > one or two in the Monterey Bay area (California) that I heard of > through word of mouth. It might be possible to find a priest who will > perform a marriage ceremony outdoors. > Good luck, > Jacqueline >I’ve been getting mixed comments on the possibility of an Catholic >garden wedding. An American priest I’ve spoken to said it is not >allowed, while many fellow Filipinos say it’s possible, if you get a >priest from the Philippines. In the Philippines, where Catholicism is >practically the state religion, people get married in gardens all the >time.  Can someone please explain the American Catholic Church’s >objections to an outdoor wedding? Because personally, I don’t see how >even St. Peter’s Basilica can compete with a canopy of trees, blue >skies and a carpet of grass in terms of showcasing God’s majesty.  In >case it’s important, my fiance and I grew up Catholic, and still go to >Church, though not regularly. >Thanks, >Stephanie

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Great timing for this question!  While we are on this topic, can anyone tell me if there is such a priest that will do outdoor weddings in the Toronto area? TIA Kathleen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> www.whiterobedmonks.org > They will do outdoor weddings.  We had an our wedding outside at a > winery (in front of the statue of St. Francis of Assisi) and arranged > to have one of their priests perform the ceremony. > Jan > Stephanie, > You might want to ask around for referrals for Catholic priests that > will do outdoor ceremonies, including baptisms and weddings. I know of > one or two in the Monterey Bay area (California) that I heard of > through word of mouth. It might be possible to find a priest who will > perform a marriage ceremony outdoors. > Good luck, > Jacqueline >>I’ve been getting mixed comments on the possibility of an Catholic >>garden wedding. An American priest I’ve spoken to said it is not >>allowed, while many fellow Filipinos say it’s possible, if you get a >>priest from the Philippines. In the Philippines, where Catholicism is >>practically the state religion, people get married in gardens all the >>time.  Can someone please explain the American Catholic Church’s >>objections to an outdoor wedding? Because personally, I don’t see how >>even St. Peter’s Basilica can compete with a canopy of trees, blue >>skies and a carpet of grass in terms of showcasing God’s majesty.  In >>case it’s important, my fiance and I grew up Catholic, and still go to >>Church, though not regularly. >>Thanks, >>Stephanie > — > jan(at)panix.com                       http://www.couchtigers.com > :Silicon Valley Friends of Ferals : CAT:  A pigmy lion that loves : > :  http://www.svff.org            :       mice, hates dogs, and   : > :Mary Kay Cosmetics, Inc.         :       patronizes human beings.: > :  http://www.marykay.com/jcordes :         –Oliver Herford      :

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Stephanie, > You might want to ask around for referrals for Catholic priests that > will do outdoor ceremonies, including baptisms and weddings. I know of > one or two in the Monterey Bay area (California) that I heard of > through word of mouth. It might be possible to find a priest who will > perform a marriage ceremony outdoors. > Good luck, > Jacqueline >I’ve been getting mixed comments on the possibility of an Catholic >garden wedding. An American priest I’ve spoken to said it is not >allowed, while many fellow Filipinos say it’s possible, if you get a >priest from the Philippines. In the Philippines, where Catholicism is >practically the state religion, people get married in gardens all the >time.  Can someone please explain the American Catholic Church’s >objections to an outdoor wedding? Because personally, I don’t see how >even St. Peter’s Basilica can compete with a canopy of trees, blue >skies and a carpet of grass in terms of showcasing God’s majesty.  In >case it’s important, my fiance and I grew up Catholic, and still go to >Church, though not regularly. >Thanks, >Stephanie

For what it’s worth, there are some priests who claim to be Catholic, but are not Roman Catholic.  If  you want a Roman Catholic wedding, you have to follow their rules. — aMAZon "It’s never too late to have a happy childhood."

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Rome in February

Question:

I suggest you try the Assimil method (available in all bookstores). I used it daily for about 4 months and was able to converse easily with people in Italy. Are you set on hotels, or would you consider hostels and such? I stayed in a pension in Rome, and I could see the dome of St. Peter’s Basilica from my room window. Quite a sight, and very inexpensive! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi — Going skiing in Zermatt next winter and then spending a week in Roma. > Never been there and I’m studying a little italian to help me there.  As one can > imagine, I have lots of ????? How do I get to Rome from Zermatt?  Where do I find > a reasonable (under $100/night for two) hotel in a decent neighborhood and close > to all those wonderful attractions we will want to see?  What does one see in a > week?  Do I need to set priorities?  Decent restaurants in all the price ranges; > we’ll try them all????  I haven’t bought a travel book yet — which does the best > job?  I did get Barron’s cassettes on the italian language — seems difficult, > but I will keep trying even though everyone will probably speak english to me. > I will be grateful for any helpful comments. > Thanks in advance. > Eli

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Hi — Going skiing in Zermatt next winter and then spending a week in Roma.   Never been there and I’m studying a little italian to help me there.  As one can imagine, I have lots of ????? How do I get to Rome from Zermatt?  Where do I find a reasonable (under $100/night for two) hotel in a decent neighborhood and close to all those wonderful attractions we will want to see?  What does one see in a week?  Do I need to set priorities?  Decent restaurants in all the price ranges; we’ll try them all????  I haven’t bought a travel book yet — which does the best job?  I did get Barron’s cassettes on the italian language — seems difficult, but I will keep trying even though everyone will probably speak english to me. I will be grateful for any helpful comments. Thanks in advance. Eli

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Hi — Going skiing in Zermatt next winter and then spending a week in Roma.   Never been there and I’m studying a little italian to help me there.  As one can imagine, I have lots of ????? How do I get to Rome from Zermatt?  Where do I find a reasonable (under $100/night for two) hotel in a decent neighborhood and close to all those wonderful attractions we will want to see?  What does one see in a week?  Do I need to set priorities?  Decent restaurants in all the price ranges; we’ll try them all????  I haven’t bought a travel book yet — which does the best job?  I did get Barron’s cassettes on the italian language — seems difficult, but I will keep trying even though everyone will probably speak english to me. I will be grateful for any helpful comments. Thanks in advance. Eli

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I suggest you try the Assimil method (available in all bookstores). I used it daily for about 4 months and was able to converse easily with people in Italy. Are you set on hotels, or would you consider hostels and such? I stayed in a pension in Rome, and I could see the dome of St. Peter’s Basilica from my room window. Quite a sight, and very inexpensive! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi — Going skiing in Zermatt next winter and then spending a week in Roma. > Never been there and I’m studying a little italian to help me there.  As one can > imagine, I have lots of ????? How do I get to Rome from Zermatt?  Where do I find > a reasonable (under $100/night for two) hotel in a decent neighborhood and close > to all those wonderful attractions we will want to see?  What does one see in a > week?  Do I need to set priorities?  Decent restaurants in all the price ranges; > we’ll try them all????  I haven’t bought a travel book yet — which does the best > job?  I did get Barron’s cassettes on the italian language — seems difficult, > but I will keep trying even though everyone will probably speak english to me. > I will be grateful for any helpful comments. > Thanks in advance. > Eli

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Ren Med Part 2- Ports -Civitavecchia,Naples&Palermo

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CIVITAVECCHIA, ITALY MARCH 12,2001 It was too late to go into Rome after arriving at the ship, although some people did. We were just too tired after the long flight. The following morning we awakened to a very windy and rainy day. The ship excursion people had four different tours: 1. Catacombs and Italian Countryside/Lunch – $109.99 2. Highlights of Rome -$99.99 3. Historic Rome, Vatican Museum and St.Peter’s Basilica -$109.99 4. Rome on your own, where you were taken into Rome by bus, left at a certain point to sightsee and go shopping and then meet the bus at the point you were left off and return to the ship.- $79.99 Since we had been to Rome before, we decided to go on our own by taking a train from Civitavecchia but we waited until after 9:30AM, when the rain had nearly stopped, took a cab to the train station that cost us $5.00 each and bought tickets for the train for $13.00 round trip each. The train came in less than 10 minutes and was a very comfortable, fast and smooth riding train with mostly local people on it~ We did not realize that they had smoking and non-smoking cars until we boarded and the strong stale odor of smoke hit us. Later we noticed there was a smoking symbol in red on the window. Returning, we saw the train car windows with non-smoking symbols on the windows. People in Rome were  always very warmly dressed~when we were without sweaters, they always had on heavy winter jackets including leather and they did not like the windows on the train to be open~not even a few inches. The temperatures were in the sunny mid seventies~ could not quite figure that one out! The trip into Rome was an hour long and we got off just before downtown Rome at the St. Peter’s Square station.  We later learned that the same ticket can be used for buses after getting off the train. We walked several blocks with the great dome of St. Peter’s as our guide and compass.There were many people in St. Peter’s Square but we had a short line entering the Basilica. A visit there is a must as there are so many beautiful statues such a the Pieta by Michelangelo and exquisite art work.  As I had done before,, I got to rub the toe of St. Peter’s statue which is black in appearance except for his toe which is a shiny brass color from so many touching it. All around, many confessionals were in use with the language posted over them that indicated what language they were being heard in. There was also a Mass being celebrated at one of the side altars. Even though we had spent one and a half days when we were there three years ago, there was SO much we still had not seen after spending the day until 2:30 PM there. It is magnificent and has to be seen to be appreciated~words do not do it justice. The many domes,paintings,frescoes, marble, statues, sculptures and previous popes’ bodies and statues. We visited the body of St.Pius X as it is he after whom our parish church at home is named. There are beautiful coats of arms set in the floor design as well as metal carvings. Downstairs are St. Peter’s bones and the resting places of previous popes. I hated to leave. We walked back to the train and this time there was another couple on it that was from the ship. He had been born in Italy but moved to the US in his latter teens and married a US citizen. They told us not to take a cab back to the ship but to walk back as it was only a 10 minute walk. Since it was not raining, we took their advice and discovered that Civitavecchia was a nice little port city which was much nicer and cleaner than it looked from the ship. At the base of the hill leading to the port terminal, runs a free shuttle bus which we took that delivered us right to our ship. This bus runs back and forth about every 10-15 minutes. We were very happy that we had spent the day our own way after overhearing some horror stories about the people who had paid $79-109. for excursions and had either missed some of the sights, been hurried through some sights or been forced to walk in a very hard rain. Two different couples spoke of the overbearing militaristic attitude of one of the guides who demanded that they stay put and not move from certain areas at times~~this is hearsay but none the less made us glad we did it  our way at much less expense and spend as much time as we wanted where we wanted. The pursers’ desk does have the train schedules to and from Rome. We were expected to be aboard by 5:15PM and had our life boat drill at 5:30PM. It was very orderly and the life jackets were more comfortable than some I’ve had to wear. We met in the Cabaret Lounge and then were walked to the area where our lifeboat was located. Then it was off to Horizons Bar where the view of our departure was visible across the entire glassed closed in area of the back of the ship and where they served hot canap

Basilicas in Rome

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Can anyone tell me how many Basilicas there are in Rome? I read that there were four and yet I’m sure there are more. I can name and probably misname the following: St. John Lateran, St. Paul, St. Mary Major, St. Peters While in Rome we also visited the Basilica of Saint Sabina thanks Don

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> Can anyone tell me how many Basilicas there are in Rome? I read that there were > four and yet I’m sure there are more. > I can name and probably misname the following: > St. John Lateran, St. Paul, St. Mary Major, St. Peters > While in Rome we also visited the Basilica of Saint Sabina

Your four are correct. A Basilica (capital B) is a church with a special designation in the Roman Catholic Church. I believe those are the only four such in Rome. A basilica (lower case b) is a Roman architectural style … many of the churches in Rome, and elsewhere, are basilicas, in style. Ed — Traveling With Ed & Julie: http://TWEnJ.com Trip Planning: Tips, Tools and Resources Rome . Switzerland . Bavaria . Colorado’s San Juans

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Can anyone tell me how many Basilicas there are in Rome? I read that there were four and yet I’m sure there are more. I can name and probably misname the following: St. John Lateran, St. Paul, St. Mary Major, St. Peters While in Rome we also visited the Basilica of Saint Sabina thanks Don

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> Can anyone tell me how many Basilicas there are in Rome? I read that there were > four and yet I’m sure there are more. > I can name and probably misname the following: > St. John Lateran, St. Paul, St. Mary Major, St. Peters > While in Rome we also visited the Basilica of Saint Sabina

Your four are correct. A Basilica (capital B) is a church with a special designation in the Roman Catholic Church. I believe those are the only four such in Rome. A basilica (lower case b) is a Roman architectural style … many of the churches in Rome, and elsewhere, are basilicas, in style. Ed — Traveling With Ed & Julie: http://TWEnJ.com Trip Planning: Tips, Tools and Resources Rome . Switzerland . Bavaria . Colorado’s San Juans

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Budapest

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The highlight of our trip was hiring a personal driver w/Mercedes and touring the country for 3 days.  He new everywhere to go that tourists never see–even spent time w/his family.  Stayed at the Hotel Intercontinental.  Driver’s name was Janos.  We even went to Vienna and into Slovenia.  With the low Budapest prices I think it cost us about $100/day total and well worth it.  THAT’s the way to tour!  Be sure to see Eger, Vacs and Visigrad.  Stay clear of the Ukranian moffia who patroll the Vaci Uta after midnight. -Walter 245.s245.tnt10.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com>, > I recommend a tour of the Parliment Building.  Unfortunately, you can’t > wander around much, but it is very beautiful.

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>> Any recommendations for nice places to visit in Budapest? > Will be there for only 2 days.

Budapest is one of the most pleasant cities to walk in. Just walk all around Pest and go to the Buda side to see beautiful views from the top of Gellert Hill and the Var. Michael To reply by email, please eliminate "NOSPAM" from my address. Personal messages only! If you send a commercial solicitation, I will boycott the product.

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>Any recommendations for nice places to visit in Budapest? >Will be there for only 2 days.

I was just there and I loved it.Walk as much as possible. I really enjoyed the Gigantic Market near one of the bridges. Looked like a trainstation inside. great buys on Caviar..$15 for something that would cost you $160 in the US. Eat at the" La Fatal"restaurant , great portions and  cheap prices. Real hungarian food. I had a schnitzel the size of a hubcap.BG

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There is a wonderful hop=on=hop off van that we took when there in October.  It took us to all the places to see and you could stay as long as you liked and catch the van on another trip around.  I’m sorry I don’t remember the name but a hotel can surely tell you.  A wonderful walking city with a great shopping street as well/ Bill

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> Visit the most beautiful City in the world > get more information about at jump.to/hungary

"Jump to Hungary"?  You mean by parachute? — http://www2.thecia.net/users/rnewman/

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I recommend a tour of the Parliment Building.  Unfortunately, you can’t wander around much, but it is very beautiful.

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The Parliament Building looked great from the outside. Tours in English at 10 AM and 2 PM. Unfortuately, we showed up at 2 PM and were told there were no tickets left, even thought it says no tickets in advance. I concluded that we should have shown up that morning asking for tickets in the afternoon. So I did that the next day, only to find out that there was no 2 PM tour on Saturday. Paid tours with a tour company can get pretty pricey (as much as 15 USD). Places we saw and really enjoyed: The Opera House St. Stephen’s Basilica The Ethnographic Museum The National Museum All of Castle Hill, including the Naitonal Gallery at the Palace and St. Matyas’ Church George – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I recommend a tour of the Parliment Building.  Unfortunately, you can’t > wander around much, but it is very beautiful.

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The neatest museum I saw in Budapest was something like the Museum of Tourist and Hospitality Trade or something?  We stumbled onto it while looking for a restroom, I think.  It was near the church near the fisherman’s basillica (I’m a little rusty now, I’d have to look at my scrapbook to remember everything’s names).  It had all sorts of memorbilia from Hungary’s Millenium in the late 1800’s.  The whole museum wasn’t very large, but we probably spent at least two hours in there looking at everything. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > The Parliament Building looked great from the outside. Tours in English at > 10 AM and 2 PM. Unfortuately, we showed up at 2 PM and were told there were > no tickets left, even thought it says no tickets in advance. I concluded > that we should have shown up that morning asking for tickets in the > afternoon. So I did that the next day, only to find out that there was no 2 > PM tour on Saturday. Paid tours with a tour company can get pretty pricey > (as much as 15 USD). > Places we saw and really enjoyed: > The Opera House > St. Stephen’s Basilica > The Ethnographic Museum > The National Museum > All of Castle Hill, including the Naitonal Gallery at the Palace and St. > Matyas’ Church > George > I recommend a tour of the Parliment Building.  Unfortunately, you can’t > wander around much, but it is very beautiful.

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Any recommendations for nice places to visit in Budapest? Will be there for only 2 days. thanks!!

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Make sure to visit the Gellert Baths. It is a great old traditional Turkish bath experience. They have restored it nicely. Take a boat ride on the Danube around sunset. There are some fine museums of Hungarian history and art. There is much more depending on your personal tastes and interests. Go to the Oktagon in the evening and you can get a feel for what a lively and vibrant city Budpaest is. If you have specific questions feel free to email me. Budapest is one of my favorite European cities. H

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LyDiA skrev i meddelandet >Any recommendations for nice places to visit in Budapest? >Will be there for only 2 days. >thanks!!

The Castle district is where the tourists go.. but I do recommend the Statue Park Museum where all the Communist statues are showcased after the fall of the Iron Curtain. When I lived there in 1994, I used to bring our visitors there when it was dark (we lived a few minutes away from the park) and it was sooooo eerie to see the gigantic solid image of Lenin (or was it Stalin *g* ?) in the dark.. In any case, it is an interesting place to visit even during the day.. :-) They actually have a URL: http://www.szoborpark.hu/ I used to love walking across the bridges linking Buda and Pest (pronounced btw, as "pesht" by locals) late in the afternoon..  You can find more travel resources on Hungary at the I LOVE EUROPE! website at http://www.iloveeurope.com and click on HUNGARY. Have fun! Rosalie Nestenius I LOVE EUROPE! http://www.iloveeurope.com The Directory of Europe-Related Travel Websites To subscribe to the weekly I LOVE EUROPE! Newsletter, send a blank email to:

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>Any recommendations for nice places to visit in Budapest? >Will be there for only 2 days.

Pity, but that’s much better than none! My recommendation is to walk a lot in Pest, make sure to sample cafes where you can enjoy the wonderful Hungarian pastries in turn-of-the-century surroundings, and climb up Gellert Hill on the Buda side to see the beautiful view. The view’s nice from the Var (Castle District) as well. When you walk in Pest, make sure to go past the house of Parliament, which is perhaps particularly beautiful at night. I was very busy during the day when I was in Budapest, so I only got to one museum – the Jewish Museum in the famous Dohany Street Synagogue – but it was fabulous. I do second the recommendation to go to a Turkish bath. I bathed at the Gellert Hotel and had a very good time. But I was in Budapest for 2 weeks, and you’ll be there for 2 days, so choose the things which most interest you. Budapest is one of my favorite places. Enjoy your trip! Michael To reply by email, please eliminate "NOSPAM" from my address. Personal messages only! If you send a commercial solicitation, I will boycott the product.

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 Hi, > Any recommendations for nice places to visit in Budapest? > Will be there for only 2 days.

 YES! I’d like to guide you in Budapest.  I’m a student at Technical University of Budapest (electrical engineer). I help tourists im my spare time..  I can suggest accomodation (apartment $40 USD per day) or nice hotels…  Kind regards,  Gabor Rubin  Budapest  +36-1-3725100 /510  ICQ:20276183

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Larry, A good account of tourists’ Budapest – all of the things you describe are must dos. Here’s a couple more. Take the metro or a tram to Moskva Ter (Moscow Square) and absorb some off the tourist track Hungarian life.  From there its a short walk to the rack railway which will take you up into the Buda hills. Near there starts the Pioneer railway – a narrow gauge line which runs through the woods on the hills. Very pleasant. If you have another half day to spare, also take the chair lift up to the hills – and back down . Each direction is a wonderful experience. If not, you can get off the Pioneer train at a certain place (no map handy, sorry) and walk to the top of the chair lift, and return to Buda that way (there is a bus service from the bottom). Tony

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Budapest is a city which is divide by the Danube river.  On one side > is Buda and the otherside is Pest.  On the Buda side is the Castle > Hill area which contains most of what you want to see on the Buda > side.  The Budapest History Museum puts the Los Angeles’ Getty Museum > to shame.  It is one of the best that I’ve seen in my trips to Europe. > The whole Caslte Hill area can be done on foot.  I enjoyed the > funicular ride up the hill by the Chain Bridge.  Spend some time going > through the castle and the Fisherman’s Bastion too.  The area has a > commanding view over Pest and is why invaders always laid seige to it. > On the Pest side, you can visit St Stephen’s Basilica.  I highly > recommend walking through the street Vaci Utca and the surrounding > section because it is the heart of Pest’s tourist life.  Do NOT forget > to see Heroe’s Square or take a picture of a statue of George > Washington.  This statue is in the park adjacent to the Square on the > south side near the lake. > Between the two areas of Budapest sits a small island named Margaret > which is much like New York’s Central Park.  It it about 1 1/2 miles > long and contains a couple of Spas and swimming pools. You can rent > swim suits and towels.   If you walk through the island during the > weekend, you will see many family activities occuring.  You can walk, > run, rollerblade, or bicycle through the park.  Besides the parking > areas on the ends, only the buses can go through the park.  It is also > heavily shaded with many trees.  There is a Japenese Garden, Artist > Promenade, and Restaurant if memory serves me. > I stayed at the Alba hotel at the foot of Castle Hill and only mention > it because it was a nice place to stay for the money.  It’s a 3 star > place.  My records show that the local phone number 3 years ago was > 1/175 – 9244 and is addressed: I, Apor Peter u..3, H-1011.  The Hilton > is right near the action on the Pest side but costs considerably more. > Pedestrians can walk accross the Chain and Margaret Bridges. > As for rip-offs, I was approached on Margaret Island by a guy who > wanted to act as a money changer.  The only problem is that he gave > bad rates of exchange since he offered only 1/10 of what a regular > moneychanger would give.  For example. he wanted to give me 22 Forints > per $ (at that time).  It should have been 220 per $. > When I left the Keleti Train Station on foot with my backpack, I took > a wrong turn and ended up near the town’s cemetery.  That side of town > is very seedy…poor.  I didn’t feel threatened but I’m not sure that > I’d want to walk the area alone at night either.  For reference, the > taxi rides are CHEAP if you get an honest driver.  I did and I tipped > him 100% for being honest.  Ir was still only $5 from Hotel Alba to > Train Station. > Have fun, > Larry >Hi, I’m going to Budapest with my gf in a couple of weeks and wondered >if anyone had any advice on things to see & do, good deals, rip-offs >etc. any suggestions welcome >mark

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> > We stayed in Hotel Victoria on the Buda side. Very nice, each room has a > view of the Danube. It is below castle hill, right across from the > parliament and convenient to the chain bridge. 199 Deutsch Marks, includes > breakfast. > Was that for the room, or per person?

For the room, we were two people staying there. Lee

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We just got back, here are some more comments: > 1. Stay in some private accommodation rather than a hotel, private rooms are > abundant, central and generally of very high quality.

We stayed in Hotel Victoria on the Buda side. Very nice, each room has a view of the Danube. It is below castle hill, right across from the parliament and convenient to the chain bridge. 199 Deutsch Marks, includes breakfast. > 2. Take a tour of the National Parliament on Kossuth Square…it is opulent, >lots of gold leaf  everywhere….no doubt one of the most impressive buildings >anywhere in Europe.

Do make sure though to get your tickets in advance if you want an English speaking tour. We missed out on this because it was sold out by the time we got there. The morning tour is at 10 am, the afternoon at 2 pm. You have to have tickets to get in, but you have to get in to get tickets. Get there in the morning before 9-9:30 am, push through the crowd and tell the guard you want to buy tickets. He will let you go into the ticket office. Or go after 10:30 and buy tickets for the afternoon tour. St. Stephen’s crown is here, it is over 1000 years old. > 3. Enjoy a sauna/steam/massage at the Gellert Baths…a Budapest landmark. > Once you’re done…walk in the nearby Jubilee Park for a fantastic view > of the city.

Be prepared on the men’s side to politely turn sexual advances away (in both German and Hungarian learn "No, thank you"). The women’s side was much more sedate. My husband was a bit alarmed by the man who masturbated in the thermal bath – mostly from a public health perspective, but still. You do not need to rent a towel, they will give you a sheet when you turn in the coverup they give you on entry. Most of the Hungarian men wore just the coverup or nothing, most of the tourists wore swimming suits. > 4. Go see a perfomance in the State Opera House, they have opera, ballet and > symphony concerts (if you’re into that sort of thing).

It is also a beautiful building. Consider the symphony as well, although the building is less impressive. You can see a world-class production for a very small amount of money. We also enjoyed seeing the Synagogue and took the tour (includes the museum and gardens as well). There was a wonderful wine shop on Castle Hill across from the Hilton where you can taste 100s of Hungarian wines for approx $10. The staff knows their stuff, ask questions! Chez Daniel is a very nice French restaurant, as is Jardin de Paris (lovely outside garden). We did go to Gundel’s – and despite it being very expensive for Budapest, we did enjoy it immensely. It has that "Old Imperial Europe" feel – make sure to get the flaming crepe dessert. Make a reservation and prepare to wear a jacket (but not necessarily a tie). Learn to say Thank You, Please and a few other phrases you might use often (coffee, water, bread). It must not be common, because whenever we used even the most baby-level Hungarian we received huge grins and much better service. As a language to communicate in on a higher level, though, German was much more useful than English.

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> We just got back, here are some more comments: > 1. Stay in some private accommodation rather than a hotel, private rooms are > abundant, central and generally of very high quality. > We stayed in Hotel Victoria on the Buda side. Very nice, each room has a > view of the Danube. It is below castle hill, right across from the > parliament and convenient to the chain bridge. 199 Deutsch Marks, includes > breakfast.

Was that for the room, or per person? > Learn to say Thank You, Please and a few other phrases you might use often > (coffee, water, bread). It must not be common, because whenever we used > even the most baby-level Hungarian we received huge grins and much better > service.

Very good advice. Tony

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Each to their own opinion – thank goodness, or we’d all be in the same paces all the time! But for me Vienna is absolutely dull. Prague is great, but in my book, nothing to compare to Budapest! Tony

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> well let me add > First of all > there is nothing like a black currency exchange > a dollar is about 265 forints now. > Monuments in Budapest  ?? > yes. may. but  you have to compare other towns like Prague. > Szentendre  ?? a very very very small village > ( a roman origin.. Ulcisa castra.. ) > there is only a street  and a small square.. > there is an Othodox museum.. that has to be seen > Szentendre has a community of Serbian Speaking people.. > the biggest in Hungary  maybe, > Eger has much more to offer > a nice big town > a castle > a few churches > how  can you compare szentendre with Eger ?? > Prices ??  Of course. if you go to Mcdonalds you will have it cheap. > Try to go to a nice restaurant. anf you will see prices.. > try to go to a nice hotel.. and again you will see prices. > I was there alst year.. > two times. > and I can tell you.. > of course. it depends. like in every country. > of what you want to do and what  you want to spend. > a nice  restaurant rarely costs less than 7.000 forints. > compared to a normal 2 to 3.000 in the rest of the country.. ( have you ever > been to Mathias Pince ??? ) > a hotel with 4 to 5 stars will rarely cost less than 100 dollars. > of course. there are accomodations for 10 dollars. > If you go out of budapest. you can hire a compelte villa for about 50 > dolalrs a day.. >  I would also go and see the thermal baths in Heviz.. and the best preserved > castle nearby.- > But comparing Szentendre to Eger > pls > yes eger is 180 kms from Budapest..And ??? > is a couple of hours ride by bus or by train too much if you fly from the us > to europe ?? >  Pls compare Budapest to Vienna or Prague.. > And then  tell me how long it will be necessary to visit Budapest compared > to the other two towns. > Hi, I’m going to Budapest with my gf in a couple of weeks and wondered > if anyone had any advice on things to see & do, good deals, rip-offs > etc. any suggestions welcome > mark > — > It isn’t pollution that’s harming the environment.  It’s the impurities > in our air and water that are doing it. > — George Bush Jr.

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1. Stay in some private accommodation rather than a hotel, private rooms are abundant, central and generally of very high quality. 2. Take a tour of the National Parliament on Kossuth Square…it is opulent, lots of gold leaf everywhere….no doubt one of the most impressive buildings anywhere in Europe. 3. Enjoy a sauna/steam/massage at the Gellert Baths…a Budapest landmark. Once you’re done…walk in the nearby Jubilee Park for a fantastic view of the city. 4. Go see a perfomance in the State Opera House, they have opera, ballet and symphony concerts (if you’re into that sort of thing). 5. See the Soviet Armed forces memorial, a stark reminder of Communist control of Hungary 6. Visit the St Stephens Basilica and Budapest Synagogue both stunning works of architecture… Enjoy your trip Andy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi, I’m going to Budapest with my gf in a couple of weeks and wondered >if anyone had any advice on things to see & do, good deals, rip-offs >etc. any suggestions welcome >mark >– >It isn’t pollution that’s harming the environment.  It’s the impurities >in our air and water that are doing it. >– George Bush Jr.

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>Hi, I’m going to Budapest with my gf in a couple of weeks and wondered >if anyone had any advice on things to see & do, good deals, rip-offs >etc. any suggestions welcome >mark

Adding to the good info already provided by the previous posters: A good taxi company is City Taxi (211-1111) their operators speak english and their rates are reasonable.  Public transportation is very cheap, and will get you to most places you want to go. Walking through the Vaci Utca is a good idea, just don’t stop.  It’s the closest thing to a tourist trap you’ll find in Budapest.  As long as your with your girlfriend you shouldn’t be hassled by the girls wanting to take you to a bar for a "little drink"  which could cost you more than you expect (the most I heard was a $1000, and if you don’t have the money a few "gentlemen" escort you to the nearest ATM where you get to empty your account)  The American Embassy maintains a list of places known to rip off tourists, you may want to check out their web site, I don’t have the url handy.  There are also the same pickpockets and other lowlife’s that you’ll find anywhere else so behave the same as in any big city. The Central Market at the south end of the Vaci is a interesting place to shop and just look around.  A great street to walk and look at some beautiful buildings is Andrassy ut., which runs from downtown to the City Park.  I’ve been to Szentendre and enjoyed it very much, sort of an "Artist’s Colony" .  I haven’t made it to Eger yet, but have heard very good things about it from friends.   The food in the local restaurants is very good.  The one everyone says you have to go to is Gundels, next to the city park.  Expensive for Budapest, moderate anywhere else.  One I really like is Remy’s up in the Bud a hills behind the Castle district.  But walk into some of the smaller places outside the Vaci and you can get a very good meal for $5 to $7. Hero’s square is under renovation, so the statues of the kings of Hungary are missing, but they may have that finished by the time you get here. It is a neat monument. The art museums on either side of the square have traveling shows,  I don’t know what’s there now. The hardest think you may have to put up with is your girlfriend’s elbow when she catches you looking at the local competition.  Budapest has more than its fair share of  beautiful women. In all I think you’ll find Budapest to be a great place to visit. Enjoy, Paul

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 well let me add First of all there is nothing like a black currency exchange a dollar is about 265 forints now. Monuments in Budapest  ?? yes. may. but  you have to compare other towns like Prague. Szentendre  ?? a very very very small village ( a roman origin.. Ulcisa castra.. ) there is only a street  and a small square.. there is an Othodox museum.. that has to be seen Szentendre has a community of Serbian Speaking people.. the biggest in Hungary  maybe, Eger has much more to offer a nice big town a castle a few churches how  can you compare szentendre with Eger ?? Prices ??  Of course. if you go to Mcdonalds you will have it cheap. Try to go to a nice restaurant. anf you will see prices.. try to go to a nice hotel.. and again you will see prices. I was there alst year.. two times. and I can tell you.. of course. it depends. like in every country. of what you want to do and what  you want to spend. a nice  restaurant rarely costs less than 7.000 forints. compared to a normal 2 to 3.000 in the rest of the country.. ( have you ever been to Mathias Pince ??? ) a hotel with 4 to 5 stars will rarely cost less than 100 dollars. of course. there are accomodations for 10 dollars. If you go out of budapest. you can hire a compelte villa for about 50 dolalrs a day..  I would also go and see the thermal baths in Heviz.. and the best preserved castle nearby.- But comparing Szentendre to Eger pls yes eger is 180 kms from Budapest..And ??? is a couple of hours ride by bus or by train too much if you fly from the us to europe ??  Pls compare Budapest to Vienna or Prague.. And then  tell me how long it will be necessary to visit Budapest compared to the other two towns. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, I’m going to Budapest with my gf in a couple of weeks and wondered > if anyone had any advice on things to see & do, good deals, rip-offs > etc. any suggestions welcome > mark > — > It isn’t pollution that’s harming the environment.  It’s the impurities > in our air and water that are doing it. > — George Bush Jr.

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Hi, I’m going to Budapest with my gf in a couple of weeks and wondered if anyone had any advice on things to see & do, good deals, rip-offs etc. any suggestions welcome mark — It isn’t pollution that’s harming the environment.  It’s the impurities in our air and water that are doing it. — George Bush Jr.

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 taxis have a tricky meter.. do not trust them. the best town near to Budapest is  EGER Budapest itself will not offer too many monuments.. prices in budapest are twice or thrice as much as in the rest of the country. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, I’m going to Budapest with my gf in a couple of weeks and wondered > if anyone had any advice on things to see & do, good deals, rip-offs > etc. any suggestions welcome > mark > — > It isn’t pollution that’s harming the environment.  It’s the impurities > in our air and water that are doing it. > — George Bush Jr.

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Budapest is a city which is divide by the Danube river.  On one side is Buda and the otherside is Pest.  On the Buda side is the Castle Hill area which contains most of what you want to see on the Buda side.  The Budapest History Museum puts the Los Angeles’ Getty Museum to shame.  It is one of the best that I’ve seen in my trips to Europe. The whole Caslte Hill area can be done on foot.  I enjoyed the funicular ride up the hill by the Chain Bridge.  Spend some time going through the castle and the Fisherman’s Bastion too.  The area has a commanding view over Pest and is why invaders always laid seige to it. On the Pest side, you can visit St Stephen’s Basilica.  I highly recommend walking through the street Vaci Utca and the surrounding section because it is the heart of Pest’s tourist life.  Do NOT forget to see Heroe’s Square or take a picture of a statue of George Washington.  This statue is in the park adjacent to the Square on the south side near the lake. Between the two areas of Budapest sits a small island named Margaret which is much like New York’s Central Park.  It it about 1 1/2 miles long and contains a couple of Spas and swimming pools. You can rent swim suits and towels.   If you walk through the island during the weekend, you will see many family activities occuring.  You can walk, run, rollerblade, or bicycle through the park.  Besides the parking areas on the ends, only the buses can go through the park.  It is also heavily shaded with many trees.  There is a Japenese Garden, Artist Promenade, and Restaurant if memory serves me. I stayed at the Alba hotel at the foot of Castle Hill and only mention it because it was a nice place to stay for the money.  It’s a 3 star place.  My records show that the local phone number 3 years ago was 1/175 – 9244 and is addressed: I, Apor Peter u..3, H-1011.  The Hilton is right near the action on the Pest side but costs considerably more. Pedestrians can walk accross the Chain and Margaret Bridges. As for rip-offs, I was approached on Margaret Island by a guy who wanted to act as a money changer.  The only problem is that he gave bad rates of exchange since he offered only 1/10 of what a regular moneychanger would give.  For example. he wanted to give me 22 Forints per $ (at that time).  It should have been 220 per $.   When I left the Keleti Train Station on foot with my backpack, I took a wrong turn and ended up near the town’s cemetery.  That side of town is very seedy…poor.  I didn’t feel threatened but I’m not sure that I’d want to walk the area alone at night either.  For reference, the taxi rides are CHEAP if you get an honest driver.  I did and I tipped him 100% for being honest.  Ir was still only $5 from Hotel Alba to Train Station. Have fun, Larry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi, I’m going to Budapest with my gf in a couple of weeks and wondered >if anyone had any advice on things to see & do, good deals, rip-offs >etc. any suggestions welcome >mark

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> taxis have a tricky meter.. > do not trust them

Also, in Budapest, they are unecessary, as the public transport is very good.  In fact, at peak times and especially when crossing the river – the taxi is much slower than the trams. > the best town near to Budapest is  EGER

I think not!  Eger is a good way from the capital, though yes it is a pleasant town. Szentendre is much nearer, and even prettier.  And in the same direction as Sezentendre is Estergom (*sp?) also pleasant, and has the largest church in the country. > Budapest itself will not offer too many monuments.

You are joking, of course. Budapest has enough sights for a week! > prices in budapest are twice or thrice as much as in the rest of the > country.

Again, I think not. Not if you eat where Hungarians eat! Tony – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, I’m going to Budapest with my gf in a couple of weeks and wondered > if anyone had any advice on things to see & do, good deals, rip-offs > etc. any suggestions welcome > mark > — > It isn’t pollution that’s harming the environment.  It’s the impurities > in our air and water that are doing it. > — George Bush Jr.

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I am planning a trip to Budapest and I am looking at hotels. I’ve found one that looks and sounds nice and is on the public transit lines but the location seems to be a bit on the shady side. Anyone know Buapest enough to tell me what I should expect in this area: Pension Baross H-1077 Budapest, 7th district- it is very near the international train station Keleti. Thanks in advance.

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Don’t know this specific hotel, but the area of Keleti certainly isn’t the nicest in town (its also far from the worst). Its reasonably central, so as long as you take care with any taxi’s (use one of the big chains – never get in unmarked one) you should be fine. If its near the station (and the main road north) its also likely to be a bit loud around there.For this area, I’d be expecting a very good price – certainly less than HUF 10,000 / night.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am planning a trip to Budapest and I am looking at hotels. > I’ve found one that looks and sounds nice and is on the public > transit lines but the location seems to be a bit on the shady > side. Anyone know Buapest enough to tell me what I should expect > in this area: > Pension Baross > H-1077 Budapest, 7th district- it is very near the international > train station Keleti. > Thanks in advance.

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I am planning a one week trip to Budapest sometime in July.  Would greatly appreciate any information you have re walking tours,  and best (central) located area to find hotel accomodations.  Am interested in 4 star or tourist superior class..   Does anyone know of the Art hotel?      any suggestions?    thank you.

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: I am planning a one week trip to Budapest sometime in July.  Would : greatly appreciate any information you have re : walking tours,  and best (central) located area to find hotel : accomodations.  Am : interested in 4 star or tourist superior class..   Does anyone know of : the Art : hotel?      any suggestions?    thank you. We stayed at the Mariott (normally wouldn’t but my sister had room vouchers).  The location was great, right near Elizibeth Bridge, overlooking the Danube.  Not too far was Vaci Ulice (well known street for shopping, resturants).  Hotel was on the Pest side, crossing over the chain bridge (easy walk) was a funicular up castle hill to fisherman’s bastion, St. Mathias, etc.  We self-toured, and it worked out fine. — Tom Flynn I represent only myself

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We stayed on the Buda side in the Flamenco Hotel and found it very nice and also convenient.  We walked to the shopping area on the Pest side with no problem.  The hotel dining room had terrific meals and the low prices were astounding. We took a get on get off shuttle around town and loved it.  You could stay at each site as long as you liked and the price was very reasonable.  I went to Budapest with a friend but I had not wanted to go.  Now I would return in an instant.  Problably the most economical trip I have taken.  Have fun! Bill

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Would this be worth a visit for a few day?  Can anone direct me to some good information on the net?  I am very open to sugestions, and especially enjoy walking a lot and exploring places.  J.

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rec travel europe Yes: a delightful city, and cheap.    You can choose what to see if you read http://www.inyourpocket.com, for Budapest and Szentendre, http://travel.roughguides.com/ for Hungary, Budapest and http://www.lonelyplanet.com, then "Destinations" and "Postcards". Also of use are  http://www.centraleurope.com/country/country.php3 for art, architecture, food, cultural experiences, hiking and other matters.   and http://goeasteurope.about.com/travel/goeasteurope/msubmenu3.htm for links to other websites. Please write if I can help further. Ben Haines, London

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>Would this be worth a visit for a few day?  Can anone direct me to some >good information on the net?  I am very open to sugestions, and >especially enjoy walking a lot and exploring places.  J.

 it’s a GREAT city…I would go back in a minute. If your coming in by train, it’s not much to look at (little dreary looking) but down town reminded me of New York. Very cheap to be there.      BG

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I need a good site for info on Budapest.  Can anyone help ? Bill Reekie Norfolk UK

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> I need a good site for info on Budapest.  Can anyone help ? > Bill Reekie Norfolk UK

Hi Bill, an university project about Budapest http://www.fsz.bme.hu/hungary/budapest/ a site featured by a travel service http://www.timeout.com/budapest/index.html the official site http://www.budapest.com/ Andreas (AS) — Read the personal views of a globetrotter about castles, museums, sceneries and historic places * http://www.culture.privateweb.at/anasus/ *

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I am a (divorced) French daddy. My daughter and I will be in Budapest from July 29th to August 7th. We are from France. Any nice person (woman) interested to meet us ? I know Budapest quite well but spending few hours with someone interested in speaking French and showing around would be fine !

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 Hi  Je peux aider. .. I can help you to find a young lady who speak French. I know 2 girls who speak French well. I help tourists in my spare time but I prefer English. I am a student at University of Technology.  It wouldnt’t be free for you. My fee is 7 USD per hour plus some food on the way..  See You soon  Gabor Rubin  Phone +36-20-3176203     – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am a (divorced) French daddy. > My daughter and I will be in Budapest from July 29th to August 7th. > Any nice person (woman) interested to meet us ? > I know Budapest quite well but spending few hours with someone interested in > speaking French and showing around would be fine !

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Robert, There is something called the Village Museum on Kisseleff Ave. I think.   Would that be interesting to visit? Frank Matthews – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Budapest is a fantastic city, but it was actually Bucharest that was touted >as the Paris of Eastern Europe, not Budapest. >Sadly, Bucharest is now a complete shithole of a city with virtually nothing >you can’t get elsewhere for better value. >— >DFM > Sadly I have to agree to you, about Bucharest having nothing special > to offer,  but let’s be serious: things change. > I don’t know when you’ve been last time in Bucharest. I live in this > city for four years now, and I haven’t experienced any of the problems > several users of this group have described. > Of course you cannot find any good clubs or restaurants… they are > not everywhere. If you ask, you can find it. Just ask. > Robert

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Budapest is a fantastic city, but it was actually Bucharest that was touted > as the Paris of Eastern Europe, not Budapest. > Sadly, Bucharest is now a complete shithole of a city with virtually nothing > you can’t get elsewhere for better value. > — > DFM > Sadly I have to agree to you, about Bucharest having nothing special > to offer,  but let’s be serious: things change. > I don’t know when you’ve been last time in Bucharest. I live in this > city for four years now, and I haven’t experienced any of the problems > several users of this group have described. > Of course you cannot find any good clubs or restaurants… they are > not everywhere. If you ask, you can find it. Just ask.

I was there about… oooh… 10 weeks ago. Was travelling around Romania for weeks prior to that, and loved it. Awesome value! But unfortunately Bucharest is just plain horrible. It could have been so good if Ceaucescu (sp?) had concentrated more on finishing and fixing, instead of having the second biggest admin building in the world. Anyone thinking of going to Romania should not hesitate. It is poor, but feels nothing like any other country in Europe. Kind of like stepping back 200 years in the rural areas. They don’t have enough money to ruin the place! Loved the Romanians too, Roma kids excepted. They’re a pain in the bum! — DFM

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> In terms of being in the city… I definitely recommend going to Vatci > Utca… I studied abroad in Budapest last year, and Vatci was my > favorite place to go, hang out, and just drink…Although, it’s an > absolute tourist trap.. so know that prices there are a bit more > expensive then along the street…  Also, I recommend going to see a > show at the opera house… a few of my classmates and I went to go see > an opera.. and surprisingly, that night was one of our most memorable.. > Budapest is a beautiful and safe city..so regardless of what you get to > see/do or don’t get to see… you’re going to have an incredible > time…. They say Budapest is the Paris of Eastern Europe….. > So….Enjoy

Budapest is a fantastic city, but it was actually Bucharest that was touted as the Paris of Eastern Europe, not Budapest. Sadly, Bucharest is now a complete shithole of a city with virtually nothing you can’t get elsewhere for better value. — DFM

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> Budapest is a fantastic city, but it was actually Bucharest that was touted > as the Paris of Eastern Europe, not Budapest. > Sadly, Bucharest is now a complete shithole of a city with virtually nothing > you can’t get elsewhere for better value. > — > DFM

Sadly I have to agree to you, about Bucharest having nothing special to offer,  but let’s be serious: things change. I don’t know when you’ve been last time in Bucharest. I live in this city for four years now, and I haven’t experienced any of the problems several users of this group have described. Of course you cannot find any good clubs or restaurants… they are not everywhere. If you ask, you can find it. Just ask. Robert

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Hello! I will be visiting Budapest between November 3rd through the 10th. I know what the major sights are to see… I take all suggestions as per some of the more minor sights but should not be missed to see in this beautiful area. What great surrounding cities or villages could I daytrip to (method of travel and approximate price)? Which thermal spas offer mud baths? If you could also give suggestions as to what restaurants to go to that are reasonable in price and wonderful, it would be FANTASTIC! Thanks so much! Donica

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Day trips from Budapest:  North to the Danube Bend. Esztergom and Visegrad are spectacular. Get a good guidebook and read about these areas.  There are boat trips up to the bend from Budapest. En route back visit Szentendre (beautiful baroque hill-town) and Obuda (Roman ruins)  About 30 min. north iof Budapest and can be reached also by HEV train. I liked the beautiful baroque palace of Empress Elizabeth at Godoloo, which is East of town and about an hour by HEV. You can also get to Lake Balaton by bus or train. I enjoyed a day trip (organized) to a ranch on the Pustza where there was a fascinating demonstration of horsemanship and an outdoor meal served. A small but beautiful country (Hungary) with many things nearby to enjoy.  But do read up on what is available. LW

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Lwindreich prob means G

Rome scaffolding etc.

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I’m not sure this was posted properly before. So here it is: *** I just got an article off the internet about the completion of the work on the facade of St. Peters. Apparently the scaffolding will be gone by the end of September.  Does anyone have news since September 4, 1999 on what is closed, newly opened, obstructed by scaffolding etc.? Also, I have read a few notes about restaurant bill-padding in Rome. Names of offending restaurants would be appreciated. What kinds of charges not usually found in restaurants in the US can be expected and how much do those charges run?  I’ve heard about charges for bread and cover and for water. Thanks. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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> I just got an article off the internet about the completion of the work > on the facade of St. Peters. Apparently the scaffolding will be gone by > the end of September.  Does anyone have news since September 4, 1999 on > what is closed, newly opened, obstructed by scaffolding etc.?

The scaffolding at St. Peter’s is gone since a week. There were some discussions as the church was restored to its original colours – we all have in our mind a white st. Peter’s, but now it has a very soft candy-like glow.

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>> I just got an article off the internet about the completion of the work > on the facade of St. Peters. Apparently the scaffolding will be gone by > the end of September.  Does anyone have news since September 4, 1999 on > what is closed, newly opened, obstructed by scaffolding etc.? >The scaffolding at St. Peter’s is gone since a week. There were some >discussions as the church was restored to its original colours – we all >have in our mind a white st. Peter’s, but now it has a very soft >candy-like glow.

Today’s Times (of London) newspaper contains a letter headed "In the Pink", which reads: "Sir, Your report of the restoration of the facade of St. Peter’s Basilica included a comment from one Cardinal Virilio Noe, head of the Fabbrica di San Pietro. As the same prelate is listed in the 1999 Catholic Directory as Cardinal Virgilio Noe, are we to assume that he, too, has undergone some form of rejuvenation? Father John Wilson" The illustration in the report mentioned indeed showed all the scaffolding removed. — Michael Forrest

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I’m not sure this was posted properly before. So here it is: > *** > I just got an article off the internet about the completion of the work > on the facade of St. Peters. Apparently the scaffolding will be gone by > the end of September.  Does anyone have news since September 4, 1999 on > what is closed, newly opened, obstructed by scaffolding etc.? > Also, I have read a few notes about restaurant bill-padding in Rome. > Names of offending restaurants would be appreciated. What kinds of > charges not usually found in restaurants in the US can be expected and > how much do those charges run?  I’ve heard about charges for bread and > cover and for water. > Thanks.

the cover charge is always clearly stated everywhere I have been. When I refer to padding, I am talking about situations e.g. where one person orders a pizza and the other a pasta and the bill charges for 2 of each —

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The scaffolding in St. Peter’s has all gone. It took two months to disassemble and not, as one English lady remarked, because Italians "are rather laid back, aren’t they dear?" The reason it took so long is that it was an enormous job. I don’t have all the tecnical data on hand but there was something like 5 elevators to be taken away. Two very interesting things came to light with this restoration. One is the presence of color on the facade. On each side of the papal balcony the walls were painted in green, red and ocre. It’s pretty faint though. The other thing is a beautiful bass relief right under the aforesaid balcony which had been lost to human memory, it was so thick with dirt and grime! Personally I think the Basilica is a little too glaringly white, but with Rome’s awful traffic it won’t stay that way for very long! Bill-padding is not the norm here, I don’t think there is a need for a ‘blacklist’, but just check your bill as you would anywhere. Some restaurants have a cover charge and some don’t, just be aware of this. Myra – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m not sure this was posted properly before. So here it is: > *** > I just got an article off the internet about the completion of the work > on the facade of St. Peters. Apparently the scaffolding will be gone by > the end of September.  Does anyone have news since September 4, 1999 on > what is closed, newly opened, obstructed by scaffolding etc.? > Also, I have read a few notes about restaurant bill-padding in Rome. > Names of offending restaurants would be appreciated. What kinds of > charges not usually found in restaurants in the US can be expected and > how much do those charges run?  I’ve heard about charges for bread and > cover and for water. > Thanks. > Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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I’m not sure this was posted properly before. So here it is: *** I just got an article off the internet about the completion of the work on the facade of St. Peters. Apparently the scaffolding will be gone by the end of September.  Does anyone have news since September 4, 1999 on what is closed, newly opened, obstructed by scaffolding etc.? Also, I have read a few notes about restaurant bill-padding in Rome. Names of offending restaurants would be appreciated. What kinds of charges not usually found in restaurants in the US can be expected and how much do those charges run?  I’ve heard about charges for bread and cover and for water. Thanks. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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> I just got an article off the internet about the completion of the work > on the facade of St. Peters. Apparently the scaffolding will be gone by > the end of September.  Does anyone have news since September 4, 1999 on > what is closed, newly opened, obstructed by scaffolding etc.?

The scaffolding at St. Peter’s is gone since a week. There were some discussions as the church was restored to its original colours – we all have in our mind a white st. Peter’s, but now it has a very soft candy-like glow.

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>> I just got an article off the internet about the completion of the work > on the facade of St. Peters. Apparently the scaffolding will be gone by > the end of September.  Does anyone have news since September 4, 1999 on > what is closed, newly opened, obstructed by scaffolding etc.? >The scaffolding at St. Peter’s is gone since a week. There were some >discussions as the church was restored to its original colours – we all >have in our mind a white st. Peter’s, but now it has a very soft >candy-like glow.

Today’s Times (of London) newspaper contains a letter headed "In the Pink", which reads: "Sir, Your report of the restoration of the facade of St. Peter’s Basilica included a comment from one Cardinal Virilio Noe, head of the Fabbrica di San Pietro. As the same prelate is listed in the 1999 Catholic Directory as Cardinal Virgilio Noe, are we to assume that he, too, has undergone some form of rejuvenation? Father John Wilson" The illustration in the report mentioned indeed showed all the scaffolding removed. — Michael Forrest

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I’m not sure this was posted properly before. So here it is: > *** > I just got an article off the internet about the completion of the work > on the facade of St. Peters. Apparently the scaffolding will be gone by > the end of September.  Does anyone have news since September 4, 1999 on > what is closed, newly opened, obstructed by scaffolding etc.? > Also, I have read a few notes about restaurant bill-padding in Rome. > Names of offending restaurants would be appreciated. What kinds of > charges not usually found in restaurants in the US can be expected and > how much do those charges run?  I’ve heard about charges for bread and > cover and for water. > Thanks.

the cover charge is always clearly stated everywhere I have been. When I refer to padding, I am talking about situations e.g. where one person orders a pizza and the other a pasta and the bill charges for 2 of each —

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The scaffolding in St. Peter’s has all gone. It took two months to disassemble and not, as one English lady remarked, because Italians "are rather laid back, aren’t they dear?" The reason it took so long is that it was an enormous job. I don’t have all the tecnical data on hand but there was something like 5 elevators to be taken away. Two very interesting things came to light with this restoration. One is the presence of color on the facade. On each side of the papal balcony the walls were painted in green, red and ocre. It’s pretty faint though. The other thing is a beautiful bass relief right under the aforesaid balcony which had been lost to human memory, it was so thick with dirt and grime! Personally I think the Basilica is a little too glaringly white, but with Rome’s awful traffic it won’t stay that way for very long! Bill-padding is not the norm here, I don’t think there is a need for a ‘blacklist’, but just check your bill as you would anywhere. Some restaurants have a cover charge and some don’t, just be aware of this. Myra – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m not sure this was posted properly before. So here it is: > *** > I just got an article off the internet about the completion of the work > on the facade of St. Peters. Apparently the scaffolding will be gone by > the end of September.  Does anyone have news since September 4, 1999 on > what is closed, newly opened, obstructed by scaffolding etc.? > Also, I have read a few notes about restaurant bill-padding in Rome. > Names of offending restaurants would be appreciated. What kinds of > charges not usually found in restaurants in the US can be expected and > how much do those charges run?  I’ve heard about charges for bread and > cover and for water. > Thanks. > Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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!~ Cut-off shorts in Europe?

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Are you joking?? Excuse me, but where are you from? USA? If you are talking about short trousers, you can be sure they are fully socially accepted. Our towns and seaside places are full of semi-naked people. Girls go in topless on beaches and enter shopping center wearing swimming suit. No problem at all. Only in some churches, for a matter of respect, it is suggested to enter with long trousers. bye from Italy scritto: <<How socially acceptable are cut-off shorts in europe?  Not short daisy <<duke type. << <<Thanks. <<Frank << << << << <<– <<You’re just jealous because the voice are talking to ME. <<One day I shall burst my bud of calm and blossom forth into hysteria. << <<

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> Are you joking?? Excuse me, but where are you from? USA? > If you are talking about short trousers, you can be sure they are > fully socially accepted. Our towns and seaside places are full of > semi-naked people. Girls go in topless on beaches and enter shopping > center wearing swimming suit. No problem at all. > Only in some churches, for a matter of respect, it is suggested to > enter with long trousers. > bye from Italy

Cut offs are the rattiest of shorts — and are considered lower than casual attire in the US.  They are kid wear and beach wear and maybe resort town wear.  We are talking about jeans that have been hacked off and left ragged often with trailing threads hanging. I have spent many weeks in Italian cities — and I certainly don’t see people walking around half naked; it is fairly rare to see Italians at least from Rome north in shorts in the city.  7

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>I don’t know if this has anything to do with the conservatism, but I find >Americans and Europeans (genrally speaking) dress differently. But then, it >varies within the USA as well, – here in New England (near Boston) people start >putting on shorts when the temp gets up to 50F(10c) as long as the sun is >shining! Anyway, when I was in Zurich area in the first part of May, the >temperature was around 65F(18c), and I saw no one, except obvious trourists(and >maybe they were Americans ;-) , wearing shorts. And in Rome in mid May, the >natives wore sweaters and light jackes even it felt more like early summer than >spring to us.

Well, all I can comment on is here in Norway.  Young people (from kids to teens to 20 somethings) wear what ever is comfortable.  I’ve seen some outfits WAAAAY worse than cutoff jeans.  I actually saw a girl with "Daisy Dukes" on the other day.  I think it all depends on the person’s preferences on what they wear, but as far as tourists go, I don’t think anyone would be offended by cutoff jeans worn out on a sightseeing spree. I could be wrong of course, but personally I think you should wear what ever you are most comfortable in, but remember to bring some warm clothes too, the weather varies day to day and you never know when that cold north wind will pick up.

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> >The Europeans are more conservative. > What planet are you from? The cosmopolitan cities in Europe are far less > conservative than American cities.

In what way?  Certainly the residents of Rome, Florence, Paris and London are generally more conservatively dressed than people in American cities. >> How socially acceptable are cut-off shorts in europe?  Not short daisy >> duke type. > No problem in the likes of Paris London Rome Amsterdam etc.

Sure ‘no problem’ as in you won’t be arrested — but it is tacky as  hell to wander around great cities in beach attire.  And except for tourists, cities like Milan, Paris, London and Rome are not populated with people dressed like this.  And even the tourists in their cute little shorts, are generally not in cut offs.

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>I don’t know if this has anything to do with the conservatism, but I find >Americans and Europeans (genrally speaking) dress differently. But then, it >varies within the USA as well, – here in New England (near Boston) people start >putting on shorts when the temp gets up to 50F(10c) as long as the sun is >shining!

Here in "old" England, too. — Marie

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>> What planet are you from? The cosmopolitan cities in Europe are far less > conservative than American cities. > In what way?  Certainly the residents of Rome, Florence, Paris and London > are generally more conservatively dressed than people in American cities.

Which residents? There are an awful lot of people in some of those cities. And there are enough of them wearing anything you can imagine, that these statements are doomed to the ignominious fate of all generalizations. The only people who I see dressed more conservatively in European than US cities are office workers (financial sectors in particular) and retail salespeople. Those who are not traveling to Europe in such a capacity need not worry. miguel — Hit The Road! Photos, tales, and tips from around the world: http://u.nu

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Obviously you have your opinion, as I have mine. However, after living in Edinburgh, London, New York and Atlanta, and visiting many other cities, I am very confident in making the statement that "in general, America is one of the most conservative countries in the world". There’s nothing wrong with that. But making a statement that starts with "in general" is very dangerous. However, after visiting many suburban towns in many states, it becomes very obvious that rural America is much more conservative than the fairly conservative larger, cosmopolitan, cities in America. If you have done much travelling in Europe, Asia and the Middle East, it sounds like you have been missing the major cities. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Sure ‘no problem’ as in you won’t be arrested — but it is tacky >as  hell to wander around great cities in beach attire.  And except >for tourists, cities like Milan, Paris, London and Rome are not >populated with people dressed like this.  And even the tourists in >their cute little shorts, are generally not in cut offs.

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> >I don’t know if this has anything to do with the conservatism, but I find >Americans and Europeans (genrally speaking) dress differently. But then, it >varies within the USA as well, – here in New England (near Boston) people start >putting on shorts when the temp gets up to 50F(10c) as long as the sun is >shining! > Here in "old" England, too.

I was is Scotland a few weeks ago, and for an Aussie, the weather was quite pleasant (clear, sunny, about 20 degrees C). We still had long sleeves on, and maybe a light jacket, as we walked along the shores of Loch Lomond and almost tripped over walruses. No, on closer inspection, it was pale Brits sunning themselves into a nasty shade of scarlet. Yikes! Conservatism or not, it was not a pretty sight… — Chris Kuan, BHP Information Technology "The fools must be dealt with, however."

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How socially acceptable are cut-off shorts in europe?  Not short daisy duke type. Thanks. Frank — You’re just jealous because the voice are talking to ME. One day I shall burst my bud of calm and blossom forth into hysteria.

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The Europeans are more conservative.  If you want to visit St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome, you must be covered. Father Richard Gant SOLT webmaster http://www.solt3.org – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > How socially acceptable are cut-off shorts in europe?  Not short daisy > duke type. > Thanks. > Frank > — > You’re just jealous because the voice are talking to ME. > One day I shall burst my bud of calm and blossom forth into hysteria.

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> In Italy, don’t go to churches with your cut-offs, but why would you want > to go to Italian churches anyway

Going to Venice or Florence and *not* going into any of the churches would seem to miss the point of taking the trip at all. — http://www2.thecia.net/users/rnewman/

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>The Europeans are more conservative.

What planet are you from? The cosmopolitan cities in Europe are far less conservative than American cities. > How socially acceptable are cut-off shorts in europe?  Not short daisy > duke type.

No problem in the likes of Paris London Rome Amsterdam etc. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thanks. > Frank > — > You’re just jealous because the voice are talking to ME. > One day I shall burst my bud of calm and blossom forth into hysteria.

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>>The Europeans are more conservative. >What planet are you from? The cosmopolitan cities in Europe are far less >conservative than American cities.

I don’t know if this has anything to do with the conservatism, but I find Americans and Europeans (genrally speaking) dress differently. But then, it varies within the USA as well, – here in New England (near Boston) people start putting on shorts when the temp gets up to 50F(10c) as long as the sun is shining! Anyway, when I was in Zurich area in the first part of May, the temperature was around 65F(18c), and I saw no one, except obvious trourists(and maybe they were Americans ;-) , wearing shorts. And in Rome in mid May, the natives wore sweaters and light jackes even it felt more like early summer than spring to us.

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How socially acceptable are cut-off shorts in europe?  Not short daisy duke type. Thanks. Frank — You’re just jealous because the voice are talking to ME. One day I shall burst my bud of calm and blossom forth into hysteria.

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The Europeans are more conservative.  If you want to visit St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome, you must be covered. Father Richard Gant SOLT webmaster http://www.solt3.org – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > How socially acceptable are cut-off shorts in europe?  Not short daisy > duke type. > Thanks. > Frank > — > You’re just jealous because the voice are talking to ME. > One day I shall burst my bud of calm and blossom forth into hysteria.

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> In Italy, don’t go to churches with your cut-offs, but why would you want > to go to Italian churches anyway

Going to Venice or Florence and *not* going into any of the churches would seem to miss the point of taking the trip at all. — http://www2.thecia.net/users/rnewman/

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>The Europeans are more conservative.

What planet are you from? The cosmopolitan cities in Europe are far less conservative than American cities. > How socially acceptable are cut-off shorts in europe?  Not short daisy > duke type.

No problem in the likes of Paris London Rome Amsterdam etc. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thanks. > Frank > — > You’re just jealous because the voice are talking to ME. > One day I shall burst my bud of calm and blossom forth into hysteria.

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>>The Europeans are more conservative. >What planet are you from? The cosmopolitan cities in Europe are far less >conservative than American cities.

I don’t know if this has anything to do with the conservatism, but I find Americans and Europeans (genrally speaking) dress differently. But then, it varies within the USA as well, – here in New England (near Boston) people start putting on shorts when the temp gets up to 50F(10c) as long as the sun is shining! Anyway, when I was in Zurich area in the first part of May, the temperature was around 65F(18c), and I saw no one, except obvious trourists(and maybe they were Americans ;-) , wearing shorts. And in Rome in mid May, the natives wore sweaters and light jackes even it felt more like early summer than spring to us.

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>I don’t know if this has anything to do with the conservatism, but I find >Americans and Europeans (genrally speaking) dress differently. But then, it >varies within the USA as well, – here in New England (near Boston) people start >putting on shorts when the temp gets up to 50F(10c) as long as the sun is >shining! Anyway, when I was in Zurich area in the first part of May, the >temperature was around 65F(18c), and I saw no one, except obvious trourists(and >maybe they were Americans ;-) , wearing shorts. And in Rome in mid May, the >natives wore sweaters and light jackes even it felt more like early summer than >spring to us.

Well, all I can comment on is here in Norway.  Young people (from kids to teens to 20 somethings) wear what ever is comfortable.  I’ve seen some outfits WAAAAY worse than cutoff jeans.  I actually saw a girl with "Daisy Dukes" on the other day.  I think it all depends on the person’s preferences on what they wear, but as far as tourists go, I don’t think anyone would be offended by cutoff jeans worn out on a sightseeing spree. I could be wrong of course, but personally I think you should wear what ever you are most comfortable in, but remember to bring some warm clothes too, the weather varies day to day and you never know when that cold north wind will pick up.

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> >The Europeans are more conservative. > What planet are you from? The cosmopolitan cities in Europe are far less > conservative than American cities.

In what way?  Certainly the residents of Rome, Florence, Paris and London are generally more conservatively dressed than people in American cities. >> How socially acceptable are cut-off shorts in europe?  Not short daisy >> duke type. > No problem in the likes of Paris London Rome Amsterdam etc.

Sure ‘no problem’ as in you won’t be arrested — but it is tacky as  hell to wander around great cities in beach attire.  And except for tourists, cities like Milan, Paris, London and Rome are not populated with people dressed like this.  And even the tourists in their cute little shorts, are generally not in cut offs.

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>I don’t know if this has anything to do with the conservatism, but I find >Americans and Europeans (genrally speaking) dress differently. But then, it >varies within the USA as well, – here in New England (near Boston) people start >putting on shorts when the temp gets up to 50F(10c) as long as the sun is >shining!

Here in "old" England, too. — Marie

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>> What planet are you from? The cosmopolitan cities in Europe are far less > conservative than American cities. > In what way?  Certainly the residents of Rome, Florence, Paris and London > are generally more conservatively dressed than people in American cities.

Which residents? There are an awful lot of people in some of those cities. And there are enough of them wearing anything you can imagine, that these statements are doomed to the ignominious fate of all generalizations. The only people who I see dressed more conservatively in European than US cities are office workers (financial sectors in particular) and retail salespeople. Those who are not traveling to Europe in such a capacity need not worry. miguel — Hit The Road! Photos, tales, and tips from around the world: http://u.nu

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Obviously you have your opinion, as I have mine. However, after living in Edinburgh, London, New York and Atlanta, and visiting many other cities, I am very confident in making the statement that "in general, America is one of the most conservative countries in the world". There’s nothing wrong with that. But making a statement that starts with "in general" is very dangerous. However, after visiting many suburban towns in many states, it becomes very obvious that rural America is much more conservative than the fairly conservative larger, cosmopolitan, cities in America. If you have done much travelling in Europe, Asia and the Middle East, it sounds like you have been missing the major cities. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Sure ‘no problem’ as in you won’t be arrested — but it is tacky >as  hell to wander around great cities in beach attire.  And except >for tourists, cities like Milan, Paris, London and Rome are not >populated with people dressed like this.  And even the tourists in >their cute little shorts, are generally not in cut offs.

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> >I don’t know if this has anything to do with the conservatism, but I find >Americans and Europeans (genrally speaking) dress differently. But then, it >varies within the USA as well, – here in New England (near Boston) people start >putting on shorts when the temp gets up to 50F(10c) as long as the sun is >shining! > Here in "old" England, too.

I was is Scotland a few weeks ago, and for an Aussie, the weather was quite pleasant (clear, sunny, about 20 degrees C). We still had long sleeves on, and maybe a light jacket, as we walked along the shores of Loch Lomond and almost tripped over walruses. No, on closer inspection, it was pale Brits sunning themselves into a nasty shade of scarlet. Yikes! Conservatism or not, it was not a pretty sight… — Chris Kuan, BHP Information Technology "The fools must be dealt with, however."

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Are you joking?? Excuse me, but where are you from? USA? If you are talking about short trousers, you can be sure they are fully socially accepted. Our towns and seaside places are full of semi-naked people. Girls go in topless on beaches and enter shopping center wearing swimming suit. No problem at all. Only in some churches, for a matter of respect, it is suggested to enter with long trousers. bye from Italy scritto: <<How socially acceptable are cut-off shorts in europe?  Not short daisy <<duke type. << <<Thanks. <<Frank << << << << <<– <<You’re just jealous because the voice are talking to ME. <<One day I shall burst my bud of calm and blossom forth into hysteria. << <<

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> Are you joking?? Excuse me, but where are you from? USA? > If you are talking about short trousers, you can be sure they are > fully socially accepted. Our towns and seaside places are full of > semi-naked people. Girls go in topless on beaches and enter shopping > center wearing swimming suit. No problem at all. > Only in some churches, for a matter of respect, it is suggested to > enter with long trousers. > bye from Italy

Cut offs are the rattiest of shorts — and are considered lower than casual attire in the US.  They are kid wear and beach wear and maybe resort town wear.  We are talking about jeans that have been hacked off and left ragged often with trailing threads hanging. I have spent many weeks in Italian cities — and I certainly don’t see people walking around half naked; it is fairly rare to see Italians at least from Rome north in shorts in the city.  7

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